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Avast ye! Gather round, me hardies,

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and I’ll spin ye a yarn about Steed Bonnet, the Gentleman Pirate,

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a man as bold as he was foolhardy and as daring as he was daft.

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T’was in the year 1688 when Steve Bonnet was born on the fair island of Barbados.

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To a wealthy English family, he had all the riches a man could desire.

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A fine education, a sweet lass for a wife, and a bounty of land and crop.

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But despite his riches, a storm brewed with him, a yearning for adventure that could not be quelled.

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Instead of drowning his sorrows in the local alehouse, or gallivanting off on

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holiday like a proper gentleman,

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Steed felt the call of the sea in his bones, so at the tender age of 28,

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he kissed his wife and babes goodbye,

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bought himself a ship, and hired a crew.

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With nought but a day’s worth of seafaring under his belt, he set sail,

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leaving high society in his wake.

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Steve took to piracy like a duck to water, me hearties.

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In just a year upon the briny deep, he and his scurvy crew plundered 53 ships

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across the eastern seaboard, taking all manner of treasure,

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sugar, rum, indigo and gold, to name but a few.

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He even struck up a devilish pact with the infamous Blackbeard himself.

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Their partnership yielded even greater spoils.

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But alas, Steed’s luck would soon run dry.

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His lack of experience proved to be his downfall.

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And after a botched raid off the coast of North Carolina, he found himself at

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the mercy of the colonial authorities.

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A hefty bounty was placed upon his head, and on a fateful day in 1718,

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he swung from the gallows in Charlestown.

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Not yet thirty years of age, tales have been told of spectral figures haunting

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the very spot where Steve met his end.

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Faces peering through the trees.

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Screams pierce in the night. Some say the ghosts of Steed and his fellow pilots

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still wander the shores, their restless souls eternally bound to the sea.

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So, me hearties, if ever you find yourself strolling near Watersfleet in Charlestown,

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cast your gaze toward the shoreline, and perhaps you’ll catch a glimpse of the

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departed souls of Steed Bonnet and his crew, still searching for redemption on the restless waves.

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We’re back, guys. Season two.

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We’re back.

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Wow, Dale. Great energy. Way to lean us in, Dale.

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So, we went down south for this one. We are in Charleston, South Carolina,

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which, right off the bat, I’ve never been. You guys have.

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Two out of three of us.

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Yes, two out of three have. And we’re talking pirates this episode,

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which we’re going to get into. too.

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But Dina, do you want to kick us off with a little bit of history of this gorgeous

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city that you and Dale have been able to see in person and I have not?

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So yes, I’ve gotten to go to Charleston once. It was absolutely amazing.

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Fun birthday. I had really just gone because you can’t mention Charleston without

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talking about ghosts or paranormal experiences or something spooky and creepy

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happening. So I was like, yeah, sign me up.

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So really kind of that stemmed into some research, which is a bit overwhelming.

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I would imagine. It’s been around for a bit.

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354 years since it’s been settled. I feel like if Charleston was going to have

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a Facebook page, like its relationship status would be, it’s complicated.

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We have this British colony, right, that has developed into one of the top 10

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biggest tourist attractions in the United States now,

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when it really kind of whitewashed a lot of history,

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now that we’re bringing it back and telling the real, the real?

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The real real.

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The real legends? Like, is that an oxymoron?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Folk town style. We’re seeing that it’s this low country of an area,

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something that was referred to as the holy city because of how many churches

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and religious backgrounds were settling in this area.

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Really all built on the backs of enslaved or indentured servants.

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So that’s just wild in itself. It’s a place that the American Revolution has

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gone through. The Civil War has been through.

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One of my absolute favorite British sovereigns, you know, hashtag we love Outlander

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references really kind of brought in his hedonistic ways to this area.

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And I think that also really kind of helped open the doors to things that we

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wouldn’t even believe would be true, like pirates running around.

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Yeah. Isn’t it crazy? We think pirates are like they’re fake,

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but no. Pirates are real.

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They’re still real. Yeah. But they feel like a fictitious character, like a merman. Yeah.

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Like, you know, from Peter Pan. Yeah.

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Yes.

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Captain Hook. Yeah.

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And it makes perfect sense why it would be Charleston of all places that this would happen.

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It’s in the South. You got a nice, nice climate down there for the most part,

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you know, minus all the hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes and things like that.

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But you have this peninsula that’s a perfect port.

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Right. When when mercantilism and things like that are going on,

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we got the triangle trade happening, which is what’s bringing these slaves into

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the colonies and just putting the Carolinas on the map. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So obviously, because this has such a storied past and I’ve never been there,

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Dale, you’re going to tell us like some visuals for us. What does this crazy place look like?

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OK, so it’s it’s like maybe one of the sweetest looking and not so little coastal towns.

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You kind of like to paint a picture. There are rows and rows of like perfectly painted houses.

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And one very famous row in particular is called Rainbow Row,

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which is 13 perfectly pastel painted houses.

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Adorable. And they’re like, yeah, it’s it’s a very sweet little area and it’s

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all cobblestone streets.

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So you walk down the streets and there’s like, you know, you have the beautifully

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manicured lawns. You’ve got perfectly planted porches with like,

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you know, giant plants all over the porches and stuff like that.

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And then you have like porch swings.

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You’ve got lots of bed and breakfasts are all over the place.

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Literally you can’t walk down a street without finding like

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adorable houses and they have some

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of the best like shopping streets so like some

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of the blocks are very like geared towards like designer

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shops and stuff like that and then you’ve got coffee shops you’ve got bookstores

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you’ve got I mean literally you name it they’ve got it and it’s adorable and

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it’s really well maintained and like manicured and like clearly there’s a lot

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of like thought and care put into each of these little houses and stuff.

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And with that being said, if you walk down what is known as Chalmers Street,

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I’m probably not pronouncing that right, but it’s C-H-A-L-M-E-R-S.

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Chalmers?

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Chalmers Street. Probably. So this particular little house that we’re going

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to talk about is on 17 Chalmers Street. Chalmers?

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Chalmers? Mars.

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I don’t know why I’m having a hard time with that. And it’s known as the Little Pink House.

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And it kind of looks like a little dollhouse. It’s very cute.

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And over the years, it’s been updated and kept like perfectly pristine.

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It was originally built out of Bermuda stone, which is known as like a forgotten stone.

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And it gives or it gave the house like a natural pink hue.

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But over time, they stuccoed the outside of the house, but the Bermuda Stone is still there.

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So underneath the stucco and everything.

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And so now it’s like painted pink, but it did used to be like naturally pink,

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which is kind of a cool little tidbit.

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And this little house is supposedly, and there’s a little bit of like speculation

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on this too, It’s supposed to be one of the oldest houses in Charleston.

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And because it’s been so well maintained over the years that like it’s gone

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through different owners and like multiple businesses and stuff like that.

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But it’s still perfectly manicured and like it’s held up.

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And the house is kind of unique in the sense that each one of the floors,

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it’s three floors, but each floor is one room.

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So like it’s very tiny house. And it’s kind of like that was the way the houses

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were built back in the day where it was just a single room on each floor.

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And it’s still the same. Like they haven’t really changed that.

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It’s still just a single room for each floor. So with that being said,

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the Pink House has been, it was a law office. It was art galleries.

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And where we’re going to kind of tap into the story is very famously,

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it was a tavern in like the 17th century.

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And there was a brothel on the top floors.

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And because of where this house is located, it’s in the coastal town.

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And so like obviously you have sailors that come and with sailors there are pirates,

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and so It it’s known like if you ask any local person about the pink house they’ll

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tell you that it’s haunted by ghosts and very specifically a female ghost and there’s been like,

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Reports of windows bursting open suddenly despite the fact that there’s no one around to open them Is.

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This the kind of windows are like shutters? They would like blow open two shutters

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That’s what I envision. That’s what I want it to be.

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Yeah, I feel like that would be the case. And then there’s also a ton of reports

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of footsteps walking up the stairs.

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And then when you turn around, there’s no one there. And so there’s been several,

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like, encounters of people, like, in over the years, especially as it was like

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an art gallery and it was the law office.

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Like, these people were experiencing these things. And then one very famous like,

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I guess, report of someone feeling something kind of creepy is a gentleman felt

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the sensation of like skittering down, like a sensation skittering down his spine.

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And when he turned around thinking that someone was behind him,

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like kind of like brushing up against him, he was completely alone in the room.

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There was no one there. So kind of weird.

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That makes me, ooh.

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And I know it’s kind of like a crazy, like all those different things.

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So there’s lots of different stories out there, and they’re all just around

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the same ghostly figure who is a female figure.

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And she is usually seen on the top floor of the house.

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And people have seen her in the window. People have seen her,

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they say, like wandering down the stairs and then back up the stairs.

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And she’s always wandering, like she’s walking around.

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She doesn’t really do anything harmful or like, you know, super scary.

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I mean, the fact that there’s a woman walking around, that’s not real. That’s kind of crazy.

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But people have seen this figure.

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And so, like, there’s this ongoing thing. And with that, the assumption that

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the spirit is the spirit of Anne Bonny, the very famous pirate. it.

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There’s a lot of speculation that she ran her business out of this house.

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Again, nothing can be confirmed and there’s lots of like tales and stories and

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stuff like that. But with that being said…

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Dina, tell us about the badass woman that was Anne Bonny.

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Well, I think you make a really good point and kind of like bring it back to

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everything that is Charleston.

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Because I know when I started getting fascinated by this area, We are…

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and especially how long it’s been around, right? 350 years. I was like,

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okay, why is this one of the most haunted places in our country,

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essentially? Like what led all these paranormal activities to center in this one area?

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And honestly, I just think it’s that when you have that much history in one

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small location, because I mean, it’s not like you can walk from one side of

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Charleston to the other, you know, like very quickly, but it’s still small-esque.

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It’s a small city.

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You know, like kind of like a Charlotte, you know, it’s a small,

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it’s a small city. But you have wars that have happened here.

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You have this slavery that went on here. You have epidemics.

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You have ships that have been lost at sea, right?

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And you have all of these wonderful characteristics, we could say,

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that kind of help create this American folklore, which so many people like to

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say that, you know, America doesn’t have its own culture because we’re kind of a melting pot.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. But we really kind of started formulating our own based off of the origins of others. Right.

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So when when you bring up Anne Bonny, she is someone who emigrated to the United

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States with such a interesting backstory.

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And I’m just I still can’t with these pictures. I’m sorry.

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We’re going to we’re going to just tell people. OK, yeah.

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Let’s describe these.

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Fascinated all day.

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OK. So if you’ve ever seen the movie Brave. No, I’m just kidding.

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so ann bonnie was this irish lass

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right she apparently was from cork county cork

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right in ireland she’s got this like brave kind of hair like but i think brave

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was scottish but anywho irish red huge mane of hair right and she’s essentially

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pretty good looking right but these These pictures either show her scantily clad,

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we will say, or just complete boobs out.

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I know. Like all the way, guys. We’re not talking intense cleave.

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We’ll post them to our FauxTown website.

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I think what’s also fascinating about that is she’s fully clothed except for the boobies.

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The collar of her shirt doesn’t start until underneath her chest,

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as does her BFF that we’ll talk about, Mary Reid.

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Same thing. I don’t know if it was a quality for female pirates to do that.

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Just imagine the strength of like walking up to a guy like, I already know that

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you’re going to stare at my boobs. I’m just going to have them out. Let’s eliminate that.

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The only thing I could think is that it’s men’s clothing.

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So, yeah, anyway, let’s backtrack. So she has been a little rebel since she

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was younger, did not get along with her father, really didn’t want to do anything

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that he he pretty much put in front of her, wanted her to get married.

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She was like, nope, don’t want to do that.

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So she marries out of spite just to piss her father off. Gotta love that.

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To a man named James Bonney, who allegedly was a pirate, but he kind of sounded

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like a wimpy kind of pirate. She was not.

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She was the cooler one.

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She was totally the cooler one and kind of got bored of him and eventually set him adrift.

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Yeah.

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You know, because she was just like, yeah, I think you need to go into accounting

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or something because it’s not for you.

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It’s not working.

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But she became so well known on the ship, which is called Revenge.

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And the Revenge actually ties up well with a certain Blackbeard, the pirate.

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Yeah.

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But she just became this allegedly violent, tempered expert fencer and really

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kind of was a boss lady for this time, loved to be around that kind of environment.

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And the men really respected her more than a lot of the other ship captains.

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But I did read this and I have no idea what it means.

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So I want you guys to help me with this. It says when Ann and Mary Reed were

00:17:28.881 –> 00:17:38.441
also captured, it confessed that they said their sex and pleaded their bellies.

00:17:39.661 –> 00:17:42.381
They pleaded their bellies. What the hell does that mean?

00:17:43.061 –> 00:17:50.561
I’m not I don’t have any current pirates on speed dial. Maybe we could throw this into chat GPT.

00:17:52.641 –> 00:17:56.221
Yeah, pleaded their bellies. The only thing I could piece together is we’re.

00:17:56.221 –> 00:17:58.841
Women and we can still make babies. Yes.

00:17:59.061 –> 00:17:59.301
Maybe.

00:17:59.361 –> 00:17:59.721
Yes.

00:17:59.801 –> 00:18:03.701
Well, maybe that’s why they’re depicted in those photos. Also, topless.

00:18:03.781 –> 00:18:08.841
Like maybe there’s some tie in to exposing your chest and belly.

00:18:08.941 –> 00:18:16.001
I think you’re reaching to be like, hey, but that was it. Allegedly, when Ann was caught.

00:18:16.859 –> 00:18:20.939
And thrown into jail. She said she was pregnant. So she wasn’t hanged.

00:18:21.279 –> 00:18:24.139
Right. Because they won’t hang a woman who was with child.

00:18:24.239 –> 00:18:30.539
So there’s this whole war towards her death that some people say she just vanished

00:18:30.539 –> 00:18:32.839
after she was let out of jail.

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No one knows what happened to her. No one knows where she was buried.

00:18:36.039 –> 00:18:38.779
But then we have that she’s tied to the pink house.

00:18:38.939 –> 00:18:39.139
Yeah.

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Even though there’s no historical record.

00:18:41.279 –> 00:18:46.239
Yeah. There’s no history, like paperwork or anything saying that she.

00:18:46.459 –> 00:18:51.899
But because it was a brothel, I think there’s an assumption that she was there quite often.

00:18:52.059 –> 00:18:57.899
And the powder magazine, which you can still also walk by, which I’m not going to lie to you all.

00:18:58.299 –> 00:19:01.759
I definitely thought it was a real magazine. I thought it was called the powder.

00:19:03.539 –> 00:19:05.379
Took me too long.

00:19:05.479 –> 00:19:06.539
Takes a little minute.

00:19:06.739 –> 00:19:09.939
Took me too long to realize what that is.

00:19:09.939 –> 00:19:10.819
They had magazines?

00:19:11.599 –> 00:19:15.999
That it was not a magazine. It was about gunpowder and, you know,

00:19:16.019 –> 00:19:17.459
story and weapons and things like that.

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But apparently she haunts the powder magazine, which you can also visit and walk by.

00:19:22.159 –> 00:19:26.779
And again, no connection to her being there. There’s no story that ties her

00:19:26.779 –> 00:19:29.559
directly to it. I think just, you know, Anne gets a little fickle.

00:19:29.639 –> 00:19:30.079
Yeah.

00:19:30.239 –> 00:19:32.239
She just wants to bounce around a little bit.

00:19:32.319 –> 00:19:34.079
Just wandering around. Yeah. Just haunting people.

00:19:34.419 –> 00:19:37.479
And that’s where we really see, like, all of these ghost stories that we hear

00:19:37.479 –> 00:19:39.199
from this particular area.

00:19:39.439 –> 00:19:41.999
Yeah. Any of the urban legends that we’re going to talk about,

00:19:42.079 –> 00:19:43.579
any of the mysteries that come out.

00:19:44.199 –> 00:19:51.259
There’s no real solid evidence to prove that any of this was actually true.

00:19:51.339 –> 00:19:53.939
And I think Charleston really kind of capitalized on that.

00:19:54.059 –> 00:19:56.979
Oh, yeah. I mean, there’s so many books that have been put out,

00:19:57.019 –> 00:20:02.639
published, just like diving into so much of the lore that is…

00:20:03.671 –> 00:20:07.471
Charleston and creating some really great stories i mean they’ve they’ve creeped

00:20:07.471 –> 00:20:15.931
me out and helped inspire you know captain jack sparrow with blackbeard yes and that.

00:20:15.931 –> 00:20:24.591
Brings it up to our boy mr blackbeard keeping this pirate thing going so this guy i mean.

00:20:24.591 –> 00:20:28.831
Please say his real name i also his name was edward teach just like i feel.

00:20:28.831 –> 00:20:31.531
Like blackbeard is one of those pirates that but everybody knows the name,

00:20:31.651 –> 00:20:35.591
right? Maybe they don’t know the story behind him, but like everybody knows.

00:20:35.691 –> 00:20:39.511
And so many places have used his like caricature.

00:20:40.451 –> 00:20:41.071
Caricature?

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His likeness. His likeness.

00:20:42.731 –> 00:20:43.211
If you will.

00:20:44.251 –> 00:20:44.871
Yeah.

00:20:45.231 –> 00:20:50.631
So he has that, just think Captain Black, Jack Sparrow.

00:20:50.731 –> 00:20:56.531
He’s got like the long braids and the big beard, but he was born in Bristol,

00:20:56.631 –> 00:20:58.111
England as Edward Teach.

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speech and he was also probably an

00:21:01.451 –> 00:21:05.651
accountant he could read and write which means he probably came from like a

00:21:05.651 –> 00:21:10.511
legit family a wealthy family i think this is just like the most screw you to

00:21:10.511 –> 00:21:15.211
the parents i thought ambani had it but perhaps blackbeard did uh he was like

00:21:15.211 –> 00:21:20.151
nope i’m out i don’t want this and i’m gonna just steal some ships i.

00:21:20.151 –> 00:21:25.411
Want to just uh interrupt there that i I think that is also kind of the myth of a pirate.

00:21:25.591 –> 00:21:31.011
Like, we think that they are these ruthless men who just, you know, are…

00:21:32.011 –> 00:21:34.931
Swashbucklers. Yeah, I love that word. Me too.

00:21:35.031 –> 00:21:38.111
And, you know, go against and rebel against authority and stuff like that.

00:21:38.151 –> 00:21:41.871
But really, from what I have learned about pirates from all of this,

00:21:41.931 –> 00:21:46.911
they really were just people who were dealing with overcrowding in their areas, unemployment,

00:21:47.151 –> 00:21:53.531
things like that, and decided to get into piracy to kind of try and…

00:21:54.640 –> 00:21:56.400
make some luck for themselves you.

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Know for sure i mean so blackbeard i mean

00:21:59.420 –> 00:22:02.280
his nickname came from the fact that again he had a long black beard he

00:22:02.280 –> 00:22:05.480
wore braided hair tied up with ribbons and to

00:22:05.480 –> 00:22:09.160
make so pretty to make himself seem more menacing menacing

00:22:09.160 –> 00:22:13.680
take out the ribbons no he’d walk around with pistols slung over his shoulders

00:22:13.680 –> 00:22:18.380
and he would keep lit fuses under the brim of his hat so as he walked it’d be

00:22:18.380 –> 00:22:22.400
like a cloud of smoke around his face that’s intense first of all you’re You’re

00:22:22.400 –> 00:22:25.560
really trusting that nothing’s going to burn you and your hair is not going to go a light in flames.

00:22:25.740 –> 00:22:29.460
But whatever. This dude had 14 wives. So I don’t think he really thought a lot of things through.

00:22:29.600 –> 00:22:29.780
Wow.

00:22:30.040 –> 00:22:36.180
But he was a privateer during Queen Anne’s war, which kind of led to what he

00:22:36.180 –> 00:22:40.800
did with his flagship ship that we all know.

00:22:40.880 –> 00:22:41.560
His flagship ship.

00:22:41.640 –> 00:22:44.960
His flagship ship. Queen Anne’s Revenge. That was his big ship.

00:22:45.200 –> 00:22:53.100
He acquired it in 1718 and he tricked that thing out. He put 40 guns around that bad boy.

00:22:53.260 –> 00:22:58.300
He was like, I’m taking everyone out. And he loaded it up with several hundred men.

00:22:58.420 –> 00:23:02.460
He had stolen four ships at this time. So four ships, several hundred men.

00:23:02.680 –> 00:23:07.080
They went and set sail to Charleston.

00:23:07.520 –> 00:23:11.880
And this story is so hilarious because when we were doing the research for this

00:23:11.880 –> 00:23:14.560
about like, how the hell does Blackbeard have anything to do with Charleston?

00:23:15.000 –> 00:23:16.800
Other than he’s a pirate.

00:23:16.900 –> 00:23:17.340
So much.

00:23:17.340 –> 00:23:21.540
So he has this wonderful story about the blockade of Charleston.

00:23:21.620 –> 00:23:29.220
So he rolls up in and he’s like, hey, Robert Johnson, who was the governor at

00:23:29.220 –> 00:23:33.900
the time, we are going to take ransom.

00:23:35.160 –> 00:23:39.000
All your people. We’re going to take Samuel Rag, who is he was the South Carolina’s

00:23:39.000 –> 00:23:41.180
provincial grand council at the time.

00:23:41.460 –> 00:23:43.680
And we’re going to take him. He was the guy.

00:23:44.140 –> 00:23:47.860
We’re going to take a bunch of people. We’re going to steal their things and

00:23:47.860 –> 00:23:48.980
they’re going to hang out on our ship.

00:23:49.760 –> 00:23:53.100
And we don’t want gold. We don’t want jewels. We have those things.

00:23:53.560 –> 00:23:54.840
You can keep your rum.

00:23:55.180 –> 00:24:01.000
We just want a chest of medicine. Because we are riddled with the clap. crap.

00:24:01.820 –> 00:24:08.080
Everyone on his four ships had STDs. And he was like, I need some antibiotics.

00:24:08.560 –> 00:24:14.100
My crotch is itching so bad. And I need your help. And so it took like a week

00:24:14.100 –> 00:24:15.660
of negotiations back and forth.

00:24:15.940 –> 00:24:19.660
And eventually Robert Johnson was like, okay, fine, we can have the exchange.

00:24:19.860 –> 00:24:23.440
And he gives them all of his medication.

00:24:23.640 –> 00:24:27.740
It was a 400-pound chest of medication. and after

00:24:27.740 –> 00:24:30.700
the week you know i’m sure wonderful for them they all got

00:24:30.700 –> 00:24:34.740
to get their crotches on itchy and they all sailed sailed

00:24:34.740 –> 00:24:37.520
away but during this time it kind of ties to the main story of

00:24:37.520 –> 00:24:42.960
this our boy steed bonnet um his ship was overtaken by blackbeard and he was

00:24:42.960 –> 00:24:47.060
like pumped about it because he was such a shitty pirate that he was like great

00:24:47.060 –> 00:24:52.140
somebody else is taking control like i suck at this and he ended up getting

00:24:52.140 –> 00:24:55.540
pardoned for his crimes because he was like wasn’t me he He took my ship.

00:24:55.640 –> 00:24:56.360
I don’t know what to tell you.

00:24:56.520 –> 00:25:00.440
So Steve Bonnet was a little bit of a pansy. Okay. But, you know.

00:25:00.440 –> 00:25:05.280
Which I swear I kept reading about all these male pirates that we’ve all read

00:25:05.280 –> 00:25:08.980
about that in reality, they really were kind of a little frou-frou.

00:25:09.200 –> 00:25:14.400
And you know what’s so crazy is like, all right, we have all heard the Blackbeard story, right?

00:25:14.480 –> 00:25:19.240
You think he’s some prolific pirate that was pirateeering for decades and decades and decades.

00:25:20.270 –> 00:25:23.110
This only went on for like four or five years of him pirating.

00:25:23.530 –> 00:25:27.510
But after he left the holy city of Charleston, South Carolina,

00:25:27.750 –> 00:25:32.010
he went back up north to the coast of the Carolinas and he went to the Beaufort

00:25:32.010 –> 00:25:33.110
Inlet in North Carolina.

00:25:33.770 –> 00:25:41.050
And that’s where he met his demise. And his crew was bombarded on Orocoke Island and Ocracroke.

00:25:41.250 –> 00:25:43.050
Ocracroke. I’ve never been there. Have you been there?

00:25:43.090 –> 00:25:44.930
Yes. Oh, my God. That’s where we vacation.

00:25:45.390 –> 00:25:46.250
Oh, that’s adorable.

00:25:46.410 –> 00:25:48.450
Outer Banks. Ocracroke. It’s excellent.

00:25:48.450 –> 00:25:50.130
Excellent there was apparently not too.

00:25:50.130 –> 00:25:51.710
Far from charleston like.

00:25:51.710 –> 00:25:52.590
No it’s.

00:25:52.590 –> 00:25:54.090
Like a hop skip and a jump yeah yeah.

00:25:54.090 –> 00:25:59.110
It’s a couple hours well then he sucks even more because a little battle ensued and,

00:25:59.850 –> 00:26:02.710
blackbeard and a bunch of his men were killed this is actually kind of rough

00:26:02.710 –> 00:26:06.510
i mean like good for him dude but he was killed and his body was thrown out

00:26:06.510 –> 00:26:11.310
to sea but they his enemy took his head and displayed it on the prow of the

00:26:11.310 –> 00:26:15.370
ship and like sailed with his head he did something but this This kind of brings

00:26:15.370 –> 00:26:17.810
us to my next haunting story.

00:26:18.310 –> 00:26:22.270
We’re talking about the Pirate House. Oh, okay. Yeah, the Pirate House was built

00:26:22.270 –> 00:26:24.610
with brick and Bermuda stone in 1740.

00:26:24.810 –> 00:26:28.570
I think that’s like the main stone used throughout Charleston.

00:26:28.610 –> 00:26:35.730
For sure. And it was, again, a hot mess express of bars and brothels and drinking.

00:26:35.990 –> 00:26:40.470
But also all of the things that the pirates had stolen, they couldn’t sell at

00:26:40.470 –> 00:26:43.770
the port because they know they have to pay these crazy high tariffs and taxes.

00:26:43.770 –> 00:26:48.150
So there was a courtyard behind the Pirates Bar, which is still there to this

00:26:48.150 –> 00:26:50.490
day, by the way, the Pirates Bar. You can go there.

00:26:51.150 –> 00:26:55.950
But there was a little courtyard that was kind of hidden that overlooked St. Philip’s Cemetery.

00:26:56.530 –> 00:27:00.590
And they would do all of their, like, illegal dealings back there so that they wouldn’t get caught.

00:27:02.230 –> 00:27:05.750
But it’s actually really pretty. So you wouldn’t know.

00:27:06.070 –> 00:27:09.730
But because of all of the pirates that have gone through there and,

00:27:09.730 –> 00:27:12.010
you know, they call it one of –

00:27:12.370 –> 00:27:15.630
We found this out in almost all of the things. Everything is the most haunted

00:27:15.630 –> 00:27:16.790
building in Charleston.

00:27:16.790 –> 00:27:17.730
Literally every building.

00:27:17.810 –> 00:27:20.630
Every single thing. But lots of people have said that, you know,

00:27:20.690 –> 00:27:21.950
it’s haunted with pirates.

00:27:22.070 –> 00:27:24.670
It’s haunted with the ghost of Blackbeard. It’s haunted with the ghost of the

00:27:24.670 –> 00:27:26.790
poor people that had to work in there.

00:27:27.030 –> 00:27:32.390
But my absolute favorite ghost story is there is a tour group walking along

00:27:32.390 –> 00:27:36.150
there in the early 2000s. So there’s an alley that goes along the Pirate House.

00:27:36.410 –> 00:27:39.670
And one of the tour members stopped and he had this like super creeped out look

00:27:39.670 –> 00:27:43.030
on his face. And they were like, you good, bro? And he’s like, nope, I’m not.

00:27:43.610 –> 00:27:46.570
You don’t see him. And then all of a sudden he couldn’t speak.

00:27:46.730 –> 00:27:49.310
And it was like he was in a trance and nobody could get him out of this trance.

00:27:49.750 –> 00:27:53.050
And then a couple of minutes later, he’s like, you don’t see him. You don’t see him.

00:27:53.370 –> 00:27:56.810
And he comes out of the trance. And he said, he touched my neck. He grabbed my neck.

00:27:56.970 –> 00:28:01.870
He said that he saw a ghost of a man hanging from a tree, which brings us back

00:28:01.870 –> 00:28:06.390
to our boy Steve Bonnet, who was being there and he was struggling to get out

00:28:06.390 –> 00:28:08.530
of the noose. And he was hanging up in the tree.

00:28:08.670 –> 00:28:15.250
And this guy was super spooked out. And this happens in the alley of Pirate’s Bar.

00:28:15.510 –> 00:28:19.110
But what’s even crazier is everybody says that Blackbeard’s Treasure is buried

00:28:19.110 –> 00:28:23.810
underneath this bar, which everywhere, I’m sure, says that Blackbeard’s Treasure was buried there.

00:28:23.910 –> 00:28:26.610
But that’s why so many pirates still haunt it to this day.

00:28:26.670 –> 00:28:27.750
I wonder. So there’s like.

00:28:27.790 –> 00:28:28.370
Unfinished business.

00:28:28.410 –> 00:28:32.770
When doing some of the research, too, I noticed several different mentions of

00:28:32.770 –> 00:28:36.630
the fact that there’s an alleyway between two buildings.

00:28:36.670 –> 00:28:39.050
I’m wondering if it’s in this same area.

00:28:39.050 –> 00:28:41.570
I’m sure because it goes straight to the cemetery.

00:28:41.770 –> 00:28:43.350
The gates of hell are there.

00:28:43.350 –> 00:28:46.890
Oh, fantastic. Well, that brings us to my favorite haunting story.

00:28:46.950 –> 00:28:51.570
I feel like I heard that in relations with the Unitarian Church. Maybe?

00:28:51.710 –> 00:28:52.750
Oh, there’s probably, yeah.

00:28:52.790 –> 00:28:56.970
There’s several, like in several different stories and like different sources

00:28:56.970 –> 00:28:58.850
and places that I was looking at stories.

00:28:59.110 –> 00:29:02.350
I kept seeing variations of it.

00:29:02.390 –> 00:29:06.270
So I think it’s one of those like it probably has moved around a little bit,

00:29:06.330 –> 00:29:08.670
but there’s a definite tie there.

00:29:19.528 –> 00:29:22.748
As far as I know, too, some of these areas for a while, like,

00:29:22.808 –> 00:29:27.288
wouldn’t let people in, right? And then eventually tour groups got permission.

00:29:27.628 –> 00:29:29.748
Yeah, they became private. Like, private owners didn’t want people.

00:29:29.748 –> 00:29:32.148
I’m sure that helped, you know, entice the tourists.

00:29:32.648 –> 00:29:33.048
100%.

00:29:33.048 –> 00:29:36.068
But if you’re going to bring it back to see Bonnet, like, I can’t.

00:29:36.068 –> 00:29:36.888
No, I’m bringing it.

00:29:36.908 –> 00:29:37.708
Oh, come on. I’m so excited.

00:29:37.708 –> 00:29:40.028
I will at the end, but now I’m talking about haunting dogs.

00:29:40.408 –> 00:29:41.288
Oh, yay, Pooh!

00:29:41.408 –> 00:29:42.828
We’re going to Poogan’s Porch.

00:29:42.928 –> 00:29:43.328
Poogan!

00:29:43.688 –> 00:29:44.408
Poogan’s Porch.

00:29:44.408 –> 00:29:45.288
It’s.

00:29:45.288 –> 00:29:50.388
A grand victorian home that now houses poogan’s porch on 72 queen street so

00:29:50.388 –> 00:29:55.608
it was built in 1888 it’s one of those places it’s still to this day like a bar restaurant.

00:29:55.608 –> 00:29:58.528
You can go eat it it’s so cute yeah super.

00:29:58.528 –> 00:29:59.428
Cute and so the.

00:29:59.428 –> 00:30:04.268
But very small on the inside like it’s what i feel like for for new york city

00:30:04.268 –> 00:30:08.728
people like we get that yeah restaurants like this like aren’t like that’s a

00:30:08.728 –> 00:30:10.388
home i don’t know if you to.

00:30:10.388 –> 00:30:15.268
Add to that i don’t know if you went into any of the the restaurants or places

00:30:15.268 –> 00:30:18.908
throughout charleston but most of them are itty bitty on.

00:30:18.908 –> 00:30:24.008
The inside yeah i stayed on on king street mostly okay but i those are like

00:30:24.008 –> 00:30:28.208
touch this more modern a lot of the like cutesy.

00:30:28.208 –> 00:30:32.388
Like coffee shops and like bed and breakfast they’re all super.

00:30:32.388 –> 00:30:37.728
It’s like they’ve renovated the houses that were there yeah yeah yeah that’s what this was.

00:30:37.728 –> 00:30:38.928
This was a resident residential.

00:30:38.928 –> 00:30:39.508
Home that.

00:30:39.508 –> 00:30:43.488
Then became purchased and the previous owners left so quickly and they don’t

00:30:43.488 –> 00:30:45.048
know why they left. They have no idea why.

00:30:45.168 –> 00:30:48.448
They didn’t bring their doggy with them and he was a little wiry-haired white

00:30:48.448 –> 00:30:52.668
dog named Pugin and they left him without anything and the new owners were like,

00:30:52.708 –> 00:30:55.588
why would they leave such a little cutie pie behind and they named him Pugin

00:30:55.588 –> 00:30:59.288
and the dog became the restaurant-like,

00:31:00.474 –> 00:31:04.974
I guess he was the mascot. Yeah. And he would wander like porch to porch looking

00:31:04.974 –> 00:31:07.854
for food. And everybody was like, give this dog food. He’s adorable.

00:31:08.254 –> 00:31:11.234
So the owners began to joke that the porch didn’t belong to them.

00:31:11.274 –> 00:31:12.894
That was Pugin’s porch. It was his porch.

00:31:13.114 –> 00:31:16.874
And so he was a real dog and not like a restaurant story.

00:31:17.434 –> 00:31:20.294
And he died in 1979.

00:31:21.694 –> 00:31:26.074
But they say that you can catch a glimpse of a ghostly dog. I just liked that story.

00:31:26.214 –> 00:31:30.314
That’s not the main haunting of Pugin’s porch. I just like that there’s a fuzzy

00:31:30.314 –> 00:31:32.294
dog that’s haunting you on the porch.

00:31:32.694 –> 00:31:35.134
But this story is kind of, this is really sad.

00:31:35.574 –> 00:31:43.194
So the restaurant in 1900s was home to this beautiful young little girl named

00:31:43.194 –> 00:31:45.834
Zoe St. Amand. And she lived there with her sister, Elizabeth.

00:31:46.334 –> 00:31:51.154
So Zoe was a school teacher and poor girl. She’d given up on finding true love.

00:31:51.234 –> 00:31:54.354
So she was like, I’m just going to live with my sister. Sounds about right.

00:31:55.314 –> 00:31:58.594
I’m just going to be. She said that everyone in the neighborhood thought she

00:31:58.594 –> 00:31:59.874
was nothing more than a spinster.

00:32:00.194 –> 00:32:03.994
And her choice of clothing apparently didn’t help in disproving her reputation.

00:32:04.254 –> 00:32:08.934
She was seen frequently wearing long black dresses and thin framed glasses, which honestly lit.

00:32:08.934 –> 00:32:09.934
She would fit in so well now.

00:32:09.934 –> 00:32:10.314
So fire.

00:32:10.334 –> 00:32:12.874
I think the majority of my closet is just black.

00:32:13.034 –> 00:32:17.934
Yeah. So hard, hard times here. In 1945, Elizabeth passed away.

00:32:18.514 –> 00:32:24.214
And with her gone, Zoe kind of just became super withdrawn, almost like agoraphobic.

00:32:24.314 –> 00:32:25.954
She was in the house. She never left.

00:32:26.294 –> 00:32:30.514
She was super, super depressed, and her mental health kind of hit the crapper.

00:32:30.774 –> 00:32:35.294
And then one night she left the house, and, like, everyone had kind of accepted

00:32:35.294 –> 00:32:36.654
the fact that she lost it.

00:32:36.754 –> 00:32:37.094
Yeah.

00:32:37.174 –> 00:32:39.754
And she was walking down the street yelling her sister’s name,

00:32:39.894 –> 00:32:43.554
and neighbors came out to check on her, and they took her to a hospital.

00:32:43.834 –> 00:32:47.634
But she spent the rest of her life in the hospital.

00:32:47.974 –> 00:32:54.794
So the ghost of Zoe haunts the house. And, okay, so we’re going to—the whole of this state is so—,

00:32:55.860 –> 00:33:01.460
Like we said, it’s very, very old, right? But these are modern haunting stories, which I truly love.

00:33:02.180 –> 00:33:05.440
There is staff members who say that they see her ghost all the time.

00:33:06.080 –> 00:33:11.840
But my favorite is somebody staying across the hotel, across the street at the

00:33:11.840 –> 00:33:15.620
hotel, which we’re going to talk about in a later episode, across the street from Pugin’s.

00:33:15.780 –> 00:33:18.860
They’ll see an elderly woman, which she died when she was elderly,

00:33:19.140 –> 00:33:22.380
in a black dress standing on the top window.

00:33:22.800 –> 00:33:25.600
And she looks very forlorn, like she’s looking for something.

00:33:26.340 –> 00:33:30.880
but there is a guy named Mr.

00:33:30.900 –> 00:33:35.120
Ball who works there as a daytime chef.

00:33:35.380 –> 00:33:38.800
And so it was really early in the morning. He made himself some coffee and he

00:33:38.800 –> 00:33:40.660
was going to get going with his prep work, of course.

00:33:41.540 –> 00:33:44.800
So he heard a knock at the back door. It was a delivery from his produce guy.

00:33:44.900 –> 00:33:47.980
So he goes, puts his coffee down on the stool, answers the door,

00:33:48.100 –> 00:33:51.100
brings his produce in, goes back, coffee’s not there.

00:33:51.140 –> 00:33:53.020
I was so just kidding. I was like, his coffee’s not there.

00:33:53.180 –> 00:33:55.860
Not only is the coffee not in the cup, The coffee cup is gone.

00:33:55.980 –> 00:33:58.280
He’s like, I am the only one in the building. They’re all alarm set.

00:33:59.840 –> 00:34:02.220
And then he’s like, you know what? It’s so early in the day.

00:34:02.240 –> 00:34:05.080
I probably never even poured myself a cup of coffee. I’m just misremembering

00:34:05.080 –> 00:34:06.680
this. We all had those moments.

00:34:06.980 –> 00:34:09.140
Yeah, because you’re trying to make sense of the situation.

00:34:09.640 –> 00:34:13.680
So he’s like, it’s super early. I’m not all the way awake. I’m going to pour

00:34:13.680 –> 00:34:17.280
myself another cup of coffee. Pours himself another cup of coffee. Sits down.

00:34:19.080 –> 00:34:22.960
Well, then he’s like, huh, I’m just going to sit down, start my day.

00:34:22.960 –> 00:34:28.940
picks it up, puts it down and now he looks down, his cup of coffee’s back. Right there.

00:34:29.040 –> 00:34:29.400
Wonderful.

00:34:29.540 –> 00:34:33.940
And there’s a lipstick mark across the cup. Yes.

00:34:33.940 –> 00:34:36.320
You mean to tell me she couldn’t even wipe her lipstick off?

00:34:36.560 –> 00:34:41.380
I’m proud of her for being so still wearing lipstick. What a lady. What a lady.

00:34:42.500 –> 00:34:45.880
That’s probably my favorite one, but there’s another one where this poor girl,

00:34:45.920 –> 00:34:49.740
she was cleaning up at the end of the night and if you’ve ever closed a restaurant down,

00:34:50.639 –> 00:34:52.659
I mean, I’ve never worked in a haunted restaurant, but if you’ve ever closed

00:34:52.659 –> 00:34:54.599
a restaurant down at night and you’re the only one in there.

00:34:54.719 –> 00:34:55.039
Terrifying.

00:34:55.159 –> 00:34:55.479
It’s terrifying.

00:34:55.699 –> 00:34:55.839
Yeah.

00:34:55.879 –> 00:34:57.139
Even if it’s not haunted, it’s terrifying.

00:34:57.179 –> 00:34:57.759
It’s just creepy.

00:34:57.819 –> 00:35:01.939
So she’s closing up, she’s cleaning up, and then she felt the whole time that

00:35:01.939 –> 00:35:04.539
she was cleaning, someone was behind her or watching her.

00:35:04.579 –> 00:35:06.159
You know when you have that feeling? I hate that feeling, yeah.

00:35:06.819 –> 00:35:10.139
So she’s like- That’s similar to the pink house. Yes. That’s what so many of

00:35:10.139 –> 00:35:12.759
the people talked about, that like walking up and down the stairs,

00:35:12.939 –> 00:35:14.639
you constantly felt like someone

00:35:14.639 –> 00:35:16.799
was behind you, but when you turned around, there was no one there.

00:35:17.399 –> 00:35:17.759
Okay.

00:35:17.919 –> 00:35:18.279
Well.

00:35:18.279 –> 00:35:21.699
Well, so she starts cleaning.

00:35:22.439 –> 00:35:27.359
She’s like, okay, there is someone behind me. So she looks up into a mirror.

00:35:27.419 –> 00:35:29.199
So there’s a big mirror and she looks up into the mirror.

00:35:30.199 –> 00:35:36.779
And she looks and sees not only her own reflection, but the face of an old woman

00:35:36.779 –> 00:35:39.859
wearing thin wire glasses and a black dress.

00:35:41.299 –> 00:35:45.899
And she spoke into the mirror and she was like, because she knows you work there.

00:35:45.939 –> 00:35:49.259
I’m sure you’ve heard these stories. And she says, Zoe, is that you?

00:35:49.339 –> 00:35:51.999
And she just watched the image disappear from the mirror. What?

00:35:53.099 –> 00:35:57.679
Gross. Whoa. That’s so gross. And then there’s another one. I mean,

00:35:57.699 –> 00:35:58.739
like there’s a million of these.

00:35:58.739 –> 00:36:00.039
This is at Pugin’s.

00:36:00.039 –> 00:36:00.999
It’s like the restaurant.

00:36:01.199 –> 00:36:01.379
Yeah.

00:36:01.919 –> 00:36:05.819
There’s another story about a pastry chef who, very similar to the coffee guy,

00:36:06.039 –> 00:36:09.259
she was completely alone and she was jamming out on the radio.

00:36:09.399 –> 00:36:14.819
No, as you do, you’re alone. You’re working. And pastry chefs have to get there so god-awfully early.

00:36:15.079 –> 00:36:16.239
Yeah, like 5 a.m.

00:36:16.239 –> 00:36:16.879
Yes. Yes, there’s like four.

00:36:16.879 –> 00:36:17.739
Maybe more. Yeah.

00:36:17.819 –> 00:36:19.239
I mean, we’ve all watched The Bear.

00:36:19.439 –> 00:36:19.759
Yep.

00:36:19.839 –> 00:36:25.599
They were in there so early. And so she heard some noise and she was like, huh, who’s upstairs?

00:36:25.759 –> 00:36:28.239
Nobody is supposed to be upstairs. And I think there’s rooms upstairs.

00:36:29.019 –> 00:36:31.859
Oh, is it maybe like a little bit of like an Airbnb type thing?

00:36:32.039 –> 00:36:32.379
Yeah, I think so.

00:36:32.479 –> 00:36:32.659
Or not.

00:36:32.779 –> 00:36:33.459
Bed and breakfast. And so she

00:36:33.459 –> 00:36:36.639
was like, huh, it sounds like something happened. So she goes upstairs.

00:36:37.457 –> 00:36:42.017
and she heard it over her radio, which she was like, that’s kind of weird because I’m blasting this.

00:36:42.257 –> 00:36:46.797
And so she goes upstairs and when she got to the top floor, she’s like looking

00:36:46.797 –> 00:36:48.537
around, she’s looking, she doesn’t see anything.

00:36:48.777 –> 00:36:51.577
And then she’s like, I don’t know. I’m like losing my mind. I’m not going to

00:36:51.577 –> 00:36:55.717
see anything. So she goes back down to the radio or back downstairs, turns the radio on.

00:36:56.117 –> 00:37:00.297
And a few songs, a few songs after this, one of her favorite songs come on.

00:37:00.377 –> 00:37:01.617
And so she’s singing along.

00:37:01.977 –> 00:37:05.157
And then all of a sudden a voice in her ear is

00:37:05.157 –> 00:37:09.177
singing along with her and she turns around thinking one of her co-workers is

00:37:09.177 –> 00:37:14.357
like playing a joke on her but no one was there and again the alarm was set

00:37:14.357 –> 00:37:19.057
so like if anyone had gone in she would have heard the alarm go off right but

00:37:19.057 –> 00:37:24.017
nothing in there and she heard like in her ear another woman singing with her i’m.

00:37:24.017 –> 00:37:27.717
Telling you i want to be so skeptical about these stories because i noticed

00:37:27.717 –> 00:37:33.197
each one was like and she was alone you know the person was alone and then i

00:37:33.197 –> 00:37:37.637
think about mine and i was I was alone, so I’m not going to comment because it could happen.

00:37:38.117 –> 00:37:39.977
I kind of, I buy into it.

00:37:40.077 –> 00:37:46.057
Yeah, I think, too, like when you are alone, you very much, you’re very aware

00:37:46.057 –> 00:37:47.797
of your surroundings, I think.

00:37:47.857 –> 00:37:51.257
At least for me, like when I was younger and I’d be like walking home from,

00:37:51.297 –> 00:37:56.457
you know, my neighbor’s house or something to my house in the country where

00:37:56.457 –> 00:37:57.797
there’s no lights or anything.

00:37:58.037 –> 00:38:01.757
And you start walking and like, of course, you’re probably surrounded by all

00:38:01.757 –> 00:38:03.657
kinds of creepy things. But like, you know.

00:38:03.677 –> 00:38:04.977
Your mind’s playing tricks. Right.

00:38:05.037 –> 00:38:09.677
And you just start like really thinking you hear things or you see things or

00:38:09.677 –> 00:38:13.717
like that was definitely a branch that just snapped. Yeah.

00:38:14.197 –> 00:38:19.837
There’s so much of that. But I think like when you’re in a building, you for sure.

00:38:20.277 –> 00:38:25.917
Like, yeah, I’ve worked in like old houses. I used to help stage like antique

00:38:25.917 –> 00:38:29.797
furniture in like houses that are being like renovated.

00:38:29.797 –> 00:38:34.957
And I was in this one farmhouse one time and there was an attic and the attic

00:38:34.957 –> 00:38:39.857
was filled to like the ceiling with books, like so many books. Right. So exciting.

00:38:39.997 –> 00:38:42.597
However, there were also lots of snake skins.

00:38:43.077 –> 00:38:47.317
And so it was like kind of terrifying. You know, you’re like probably we’ll

00:38:47.317 –> 00:38:49.857
find a giant snake and there were giant snakes in the backyard.

00:38:50.017 –> 00:38:51.257
So like there are snakes in there.

00:38:51.457 –> 00:38:55.597
But the weirdest thing about that place is I had only gone there like three

00:38:55.597 –> 00:39:00.637
times. And each time I would go there, I’d end up being there alone for some period of time.

00:39:01.117 –> 00:39:06.017
And every single time I would go, something weird would happen.

00:39:06.297 –> 00:39:10.777
A sound of like someone up in the attic when no one else was in the house.

00:39:11.197 –> 00:39:15.937
There was a door that was slammed shut, but there was no one around. No windows were open.

00:39:16.577 –> 00:39:20.337
Like this stuff actually happened while at the house.

00:39:20.437 –> 00:39:28.717
And like I was 16, 17 maybe. And so, like, as a younger girl alone in a house

00:39:28.717 –> 00:39:32.757
that you’re, like, staging for people to come and buy the house…

00:39:33.763 –> 00:39:37.123
It was super creepy and like i these things

00:39:37.123 –> 00:39:40.383
happened like there was definitely something upstairs at

00:39:40.383 –> 00:39:46.003
some point there was definitely like someone opened and closed doors and then

00:39:46.003 –> 00:39:49.643
just like other like you i don’t know if this has ever happened have you ever

00:39:49.643 –> 00:39:56.623
gone into a place yes and there’s just a feeling oh god yes of like there’s

00:39:56.623 –> 00:39:59.243
clearly something here the energy.

00:39:59.243 –> 00:40:03.863
Is off But that sometimes can be I’m going to I just want to play devil’s advocate

00:40:03.863 –> 00:40:09.483
just for the sake of that can be yourself kind of projecting that from from all.

00:40:09.483 –> 00:40:10.943
The reading and the stories.

00:40:10.943 –> 00:40:15.523
That you’ve already heard. Right. Like, OK, I would walk into places like this

00:40:15.523 –> 00:40:17.023
with these stories on my mind.

00:40:17.063 –> 00:40:21.483
So then if I saw something or I heard something out of the corner of my my eye

00:40:21.483 –> 00:40:24.363
or like I thought I heard something, I’d immediately go back to being like.

00:40:24.383 –> 00:40:29.703
Yeah. And say in the pirate house that you feel like standing outside of it,

00:40:29.723 –> 00:40:33.023
and especially in the courtyard, people are like, you feel like menacing,

00:40:33.023 –> 00:40:34.663
like pirate-like spirits.

00:40:34.723 –> 00:40:37.683
Like it’s jovial fun, but also like straight illegal.

00:40:38.063 –> 00:40:42.363
And I think that’s my favorite part of these stories is like,

00:40:43.023 –> 00:40:43.923
ghosts are scary enough.

00:40:44.283 –> 00:40:46.623
Pirate ghosts, how fun. Yeah.

00:40:46.703 –> 00:40:48.783
I feel like I don’t feel scared of those.

00:40:48.803 –> 00:40:49.683
I’m pumped for pirate ghosts.

00:40:49.683 –> 00:40:50.663
They just want to have a good time.

00:40:50.663 –> 00:40:54.983
There’s like a but I guess where I was going with that thought was in the house

00:40:54.983 –> 00:40:59.623
specifically was like you I would feel like sick to my stomach,

00:40:59.863 –> 00:41:04.003
which was like a very weird thing to feel when you’re just like doing something

00:41:04.003 –> 00:41:06.823
in the house. And you’re like, why do I feel like this?

00:41:06.983 –> 00:41:09.103
And it would only happen in the house.

00:41:09.723 –> 00:41:14.603
And so like in my mind, your body was kind of connection there,

00:41:14.643 –> 00:41:18.663
which like you hear these stories of like all the different houses and stuff.

00:41:18.663 –> 00:41:21.343
Like I wonder if these people also felt these physical,

00:41:22.815 –> 00:41:26.195
You know, like with the one guy feeling something like down his spine,

00:41:26.395 –> 00:41:33.035
like that’s like a sensation that like obviously, you know, to what you were

00:41:33.035 –> 00:41:36.695
saying, Dina, is like sometimes I think it is your mind playing tricks on you.

00:41:36.775 –> 00:41:40.935
But then there’s also like that’s the thing. Like, I don’t know. It feels like.

00:41:40.935 –> 00:41:43.815
I think I’ve read too much. I’ve watched too much.

00:41:43.835 –> 00:41:46.995
I’ve done too many of those things that when I put myself in these situations,

00:41:47.115 –> 00:41:51.735
like, yeah, unless it’s going to be something right in my face that I cannot dispute.

00:41:51.915 –> 00:41:55.055
Right. I’m always going to be like, nah, I just made that up. I did it to myself.

00:41:55.315 –> 00:41:55.515
Fair.

00:41:55.755 –> 00:42:01.355
And I blame my mother. Sorry, Mom. Because she used to always tell me that I

00:42:01.355 –> 00:42:04.855
was imagining things and me could go back to bed even though I did not want to sleep by myself.

00:42:05.435 –> 00:42:09.155
So I just have her in my head going, just made it up. It’s fine.

00:42:09.735 –> 00:42:15.735
Which is a good way to be if you like spooky things because you can very easily get freaked out.

00:42:15.775 –> 00:42:16.855
I think I do the opposite.

00:42:17.155 –> 00:42:20.215
With how scared I am of mostly everything, I don’t know how.

00:42:20.215 –> 00:42:23.075
Like this yeah I do the opposite because it’s so

00:42:23.075 –> 00:42:25.935
hard for me to get scared I convince myself I’m like

00:42:25.935 –> 00:42:29.035
that was a ghost yeah meanwhile it’s

00:42:29.035 –> 00:42:31.895
just me dropping something you know but I I like the

00:42:31.895 –> 00:42:35.975
feeling of being scared so I sometimes I think I manifest it but this is what

00:42:35.975 –> 00:42:41.815
I want to ask before we wrap up this episode did you guys feel that in any of

00:42:41.815 –> 00:42:47.075
your I mean like I know we know Dina’s story but we are saving that yeah that’s

00:42:47.075 –> 00:42:50.735
good but I do want to know did you guys like feel that energy anywhere that you went?

00:42:50.935 –> 00:42:55.815
The only one, so we did, the tour that we did when we went to Charleston was

00:42:55.815 –> 00:42:58.255
a horse-drawn carriage ride.

00:42:58.335 –> 00:43:01.835
So we weren’t like walking, I know, right? It was spooky because it was at night.

00:43:02.255 –> 00:43:10.035
So we definitely, we definitely had the feeling of like, depending on where you were riding past,

00:43:10.295 –> 00:43:18.415
the only spot that I felt like an uneasy feeling, I guess, was a church that we went by,

00:43:18.695 –> 00:43:21.815
and they told this story about a screaming banshee.

00:43:21.915 –> 00:43:27.115
And it was this, like, intense woman who, like, people would hear her screaming at night.

00:43:27.135 –> 00:43:28.555
Maybe it was our girl Zoe looking for her sister.

00:43:28.815 –> 00:43:33.035
Exactly. Like, there’s so many versions of that. But that was the only…

00:43:33.035 –> 00:43:35.075
And I think because the story was so…

00:43:36.355 –> 00:43:39.335
whoa, like hundreds of bodies were

00:43:39.335 –> 00:43:43.075
buried in the cemetery on top of each other. It was like a mass grave.

00:43:43.355 –> 00:43:49.755
And I think like when you think when you actually think about that and you’re

00:43:49.755 –> 00:43:55.175
on the tour, it’s like, oh, wow, like that’s heavy. Now. Yeah.

00:43:55.275 –> 00:43:59.095
So like Steve Bonnet, who was our story that we started the episode with,

00:43:59.215 –> 00:44:04.655
that is everyone says that they can feel his ghost in the tree that he He was hung.

00:44:04.755 –> 00:44:04.975
Yeah.

00:44:05.455 –> 00:44:05.855
Hanged.

00:44:05.955 –> 00:44:06.255
Yeah.

00:44:06.375 –> 00:44:09.775
The tree that he was hanged. We just we guys, we had to look this up.

00:44:09.835 –> 00:44:09.975
Yeah.

00:44:10.055 –> 00:44:12.355
Don’t judge us. We wanted to make sure we were chromatically correct.

00:44:12.455 –> 00:44:14.015
In the tree that he was hanged.

00:44:14.155 –> 00:44:19.535
And they say that he is one of the main ghosts. Yeah. Because he was hung, hanged.

00:44:20.135 –> 00:44:25.495
Cheese and rice. He was hanged in Charleston. So a lot of people say that he

00:44:25.495 –> 00:44:29.115
they hear him and see him walking up and down the streets, which again,

00:44:29.295 –> 00:44:31.235
I just want to see a pirate ghost.

00:44:31.415 –> 00:44:36.615
Well, that was a big trial, too. I mean, it was the Charleston Pirate Trials

00:44:36.615 –> 00:44:38.355
of 1718, I believe, was when.

00:44:38.735 –> 00:44:43.475
So it was him as well as, I want to say, like 30 other pirates.

00:44:43.595 –> 00:44:44.035
Other pirates.

00:44:44.175 –> 00:44:47.595
Yeah, it was a significant amount of them. I could see them all kind of like

00:44:47.595 –> 00:44:52.095
getting to the pearly gates and being like, no, no, no. We still got work to do.

00:44:52.195 –> 00:44:55.515
And then finding out Blackbeard put his treasure underneath the pirate house.

00:44:55.575 –> 00:44:57.075
Of course you’re going back to get that.

00:44:57.155 –> 00:44:57.475
Exactly.

00:44:57.555 –> 00:44:58.575
Blackbeard took your ship.

00:44:58.855 –> 00:45:03.715
Yeah. Yeah, I will say there was like Steve Bonnet’s backstory.

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I don’t know if you read this, but I thought it was the funniest thing I’ve ever read.

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Please share.

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Because we’ve been saying how these these pirates weren’t these big,

00:45:10.995 –> 00:45:15.475
bad, scary men. Right. That a lot of them seem to have been kind of cowardly. Yeah.

00:45:15.715 –> 00:45:19.635
I read that Bonnet not only was married, but he had three kids.

00:45:19.715 –> 00:45:23.215
He was this well-respected planter. So I’m getting this.

00:45:23.983 –> 00:45:30.803
Like very white guy image in my mind, you know, and he’s been married for nine years out of nowhere.

00:45:31.663 –> 00:45:35.563
Allegedly, it says he had these legal papers drawn to allow his wife and his

00:45:35.563 –> 00:45:37.163
two friends to oversee his affairs.

00:45:37.463 –> 00:45:41.803
He got on a sloop, armed himself, hired a crew and he was out.

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I’m so jealous of that.

00:45:43.303 –> 00:45:46.643
Legit everyone, including his wife, was like, what just happened?

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And he literally was like.

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Peace out.

00:45:49.483 –> 00:45:51.623
Yeah. And just decided to become a pirate.

00:45:51.943 –> 00:45:55.203
I mean. It sounds so good.

00:45:55.383 –> 00:45:57.963
But also, do you ever wonder if all these pirates just came up,

00:45:58.003 –> 00:46:00.583
like, they made their own stories and, like, just started telling,

00:46:00.583 –> 00:46:03.103
like, one guy and then the guy would tell another guy and then another.

00:46:03.223 –> 00:46:05.803
You know, like, just, like, word of mouth stories that, like,

00:46:05.803 –> 00:46:07.543
get worse and worse the further along.

00:46:07.683 –> 00:46:10.443
Like, did you ever play, like, Telephone as, like, a kid where,

00:46:10.523 –> 00:46:13.183
like, you tell the first person something and then by the time it gets to the

00:46:13.183 –> 00:46:14.983
end it’s something completely different and you’re, like, seriously.

00:46:15.543 –> 00:46:18.643
Imagine, like, you leave the port and then you come back to the port and you

00:46:18.643 –> 00:46:21.003
hear new stories and you’re, like, hmm, that went out.

00:46:21.163 –> 00:46:22.223
Who is that guy?

00:46:22.223 –> 00:46:27.803
Did you ever watch The Witcher? The guy that sings the song?

00:46:27.903 –> 00:46:28.183
Yes.

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The beard?

00:46:29.243 –> 00:46:30.703
Yeah. Jack. Jock.

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Jock.

00:46:31.723 –> 00:46:36.403
The bard. The bard. Yeah. The bard of our gentleman pirate here.

00:46:36.503 –> 00:46:36.643
Yeah.

00:46:36.643 –> 00:46:40.603
But the bard was him. Yeah, exactly. Singing his own tales.

00:46:40.703 –> 00:46:43.943
But like, I mean, how else do stories get told, right? Absolutely.

00:46:43.943 –> 00:46:46.883
If you’re not telling your story, then how is anyone going to know about it?

00:46:47.623 –> 00:46:48.063
Exactly.

00:46:48.183 –> 00:46:49.643
Especially when there was no…

00:46:49.643 –> 00:46:52.343
There’s no… Yeah, there’s no written… Record. Yeah, records,

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which kind of is a good lead in for we’re going to, you know, wrap this episode up.

00:46:57.723 –> 00:47:05.463
But next week we are talking about all the haunted homes and the churchyards and graveyards.

00:47:05.763 –> 00:47:07.683
And we know graveyards are my thing.

00:47:07.763 –> 00:47:11.183
All of those things surrounding that. Yeah.

00:47:11.303 –> 00:47:14.783
But really, some of them are beautiful. You know, we really got.

00:47:14.783 –> 00:47:14.943
Of course.

00:47:15.023 –> 00:47:19.343
We got to throw throw a nod there, too, because some of the cemeteries are stunning.

00:47:19.343 –> 00:47:22.643
Charleston as a whole, like that whole, the whole town.

00:47:23.967 –> 00:47:24.947
If it’s considered a town.

00:47:24.967 –> 00:47:26.607
Charles Town is what it was originally called.

00:47:26.947 –> 00:47:32.567
It’s beautiful. It’s a beautiful little big place.

00:47:32.767 –> 00:47:36.727
With a muddy backstory. With a very dark. Very dark backstory.

00:47:36.867 –> 00:47:37.887
Hashtag it’s complicated.

00:47:38.227 –> 00:47:40.747
Very complicated. And we’re going to talk about that next week.

00:47:40.867 –> 00:47:44.787
But we wanted to kick season two off with something super fun. Pirates are fun.

00:47:45.007 –> 00:47:45.487
Yeah.

00:47:45.667 –> 00:47:50.787
It’s different. It’s fun. And it’s a great way to talk about this because that’s

00:47:50.787 –> 00:47:54.167
part of the history of how this city City was formed.

00:47:54.367 –> 00:47:55.727
Yep. Excellent.

00:47:56.387 –> 00:48:00.527
So that’s it for this one, but we will be back next week. And as always,

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head over to our social media. Yeah.

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If you guys want to dive deeper into the stories that we talked about today,

00:48:07.027 –> 00:48:11.407
you can head over to our website as well and get all the nitty gritty.

00:48:11.947 –> 00:48:14.767
Yeah, we’re going to put all of our sources up for our stories this season,

00:48:14.847 –> 00:48:17.427
kind of like we did for our season one.

00:48:17.427 –> 00:48:22.367
so if you guys want to dive deeper into this and again if you have a creepy

00:48:22.367 –> 00:48:26.947
Charleston haunting story share it with us because we’re going to start doing

00:48:26.947 –> 00:48:31.407
some extra content and we could read some of those yeah definitely and.

00:48:31.407 –> 00:48:35.427
Any like imagery that we talked about so any of the houses any of that kind

00:48:35.427 –> 00:48:39.627
of stuff we will put up on socials as well so you guys can actually see what we’re talking about.

00:48:39.627 –> 00:48:41.687
See the visuals they’re.

00:48:41.687 –> 00:48:46.527
Great so and for any of you literary fans out there so so much reading material.

00:48:46.527 –> 00:48:48.207
On this that.

00:48:48.207 –> 00:48:55.747
We have a huge book list that you can add to your tbr and uh if you find anything

00:48:55.747 –> 00:48:58.847
good definitely send it our way too because we will gobble that up.

00:48:58.847 –> 00:49:03.267
And we are nerds yep so that’s it okay until next.

00:49:03.267 –> 00:49:05.347
Time guys we’ll see you soon bye,

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folk.

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00:49:14.987 –> 00:49:16.587
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00:49:16.727 –> 00:49:19.227
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