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Ahoy listeners! Join Amanda, Dayelle, and Deena as we journey back to Charleston a few hundred years ago, when the threat of pirates was real. In this episode, we delve into the legendary life of Stede Bonnet, the Gentleman Pirate, and uncover the eerie tales of his ghostly presence still haunting the shores. Prepare for a spook-tacular adventure filled with history, mystery, and chilling pirate lore!
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Avast ye! Gather round, me hardies,
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and I’ll spin ye a yarn about Steed Bonnet, the Gentleman Pirate,
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a man as bold as he was foolhardy and as daring as he was daft.
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T’was in the year 1688 when Steve Bonnet was born on the fair island of Barbados.
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To a wealthy English family, he had all the riches a man could desire.
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A fine education, a sweet lass for a wife, and a bounty of land and crop.
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But despite his riches, a storm brewed with him, a yearning for adventure that could not be quelled.
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Instead of drowning his sorrows in the local alehouse, or gallivanting off on
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holiday like a proper gentleman,
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Steed felt the call of the sea in his bones, so at the tender age of 28,
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he kissed his wife and babes goodbye,
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bought himself a ship, and hired a crew.
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With nought but a day’s worth of seafaring under his belt, he set sail,
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leaving high society in his wake.
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Steve took to piracy like a duck to water, me hearties.
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In just a year upon the briny deep, he and his scurvy crew plundered 53 ships
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across the eastern seaboard, taking all manner of treasure,
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sugar, rum, indigo and gold, to name but a few.
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He even struck up a devilish pact with the infamous Blackbeard himself.
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Their partnership yielded even greater spoils.
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But alas, Steed’s luck would soon run dry.
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His lack of experience proved to be his downfall.
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And after a botched raid off the coast of North Carolina, he found himself at
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the mercy of the colonial authorities.
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A hefty bounty was placed upon his head, and on a fateful day in 1718,
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he swung from the gallows in Charlestown.
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Not yet thirty years of age, tales have been told of spectral figures haunting
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the very spot where Steve met his end.
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Faces peering through the trees.
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Screams pierce in the night. Some say the ghosts of Steed and his fellow pilots
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still wander the shores, their restless souls eternally bound to the sea.
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So, me hearties, if ever you find yourself strolling near Watersfleet in Charlestown,
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cast your gaze toward the shoreline, and perhaps you’ll catch a glimpse of the
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departed souls of Steed Bonnet and his crew, still searching for redemption on the restless waves.
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We’re back, guys. Season two.
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We’re back.
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Wow, Dale. Great energy. Way to lean us in, Dale.
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So, we went down south for this one. We are in Charleston, South Carolina,
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which, right off the bat, I’ve never been. You guys have.
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Two out of three of us.
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Yes, two out of three have. And we’re talking pirates this episode,
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which we’re going to get into. too.
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But Dina, do you want to kick us off with a little bit of history of this gorgeous
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city that you and Dale have been able to see in person and I have not?
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So yes, I’ve gotten to go to Charleston once. It was absolutely amazing.
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Fun birthday. I had really just gone because you can’t mention Charleston without
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talking about ghosts or paranormal experiences or something spooky and creepy
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happening. So I was like, yeah, sign me up.
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So really kind of that stemmed into some research, which is a bit overwhelming.
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I would imagine. It’s been around for a bit.
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354 years since it’s been settled. I feel like if Charleston was going to have
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a Facebook page, like its relationship status would be, it’s complicated.
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We have this British colony, right, that has developed into one of the top 10
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biggest tourist attractions in the United States now,
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when it really kind of whitewashed a lot of history,
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now that we’re bringing it back and telling the real, the real?
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The real real.
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The real legends? Like, is that an oxymoron?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Folk town style. We’re seeing that it’s this low country of an area,
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something that was referred to as the holy city because of how many churches
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and religious backgrounds were settling in this area.
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Really all built on the backs of enslaved or indentured servants.
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So that’s just wild in itself. It’s a place that the American Revolution has
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gone through. The Civil War has been through.
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One of my absolute favorite British sovereigns, you know, hashtag we love Outlander
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references really kind of brought in his hedonistic ways to this area.
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And I think that also really kind of helped open the doors to things that we
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wouldn’t even believe would be true, like pirates running around.
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Yeah. Isn’t it crazy? We think pirates are like they’re fake,
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but no. Pirates are real.
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They’re still real. Yeah. But they feel like a fictitious character, like a merman. Yeah.
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Like, you know, from Peter Pan. Yeah.
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Yes.
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Captain Hook. Yeah.
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And it makes perfect sense why it would be Charleston of all places that this would happen.
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It’s in the South. You got a nice, nice climate down there for the most part,
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you know, minus all the hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes and things like that.
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But you have this peninsula that’s a perfect port.
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Right. When when mercantilism and things like that are going on,
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we got the triangle trade happening, which is what’s bringing these slaves into
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the colonies and just putting the Carolinas on the map. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So obviously, because this has such a storied past and I’ve never been there,
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Dale, you’re going to tell us like some visuals for us. What does this crazy place look like?
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OK, so it’s it’s like maybe one of the sweetest looking and not so little coastal towns.
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You kind of like to paint a picture. There are rows and rows of like perfectly painted houses.
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And one very famous row in particular is called Rainbow Row,
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which is 13 perfectly pastel painted houses.
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Adorable. And they’re like, yeah, it’s it’s a very sweet little area and it’s
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all cobblestone streets.
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So you walk down the streets and there’s like, you know, you have the beautifully
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manicured lawns. You’ve got perfectly planted porches with like,
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you know, giant plants all over the porches and stuff like that.
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And then you have like porch swings.
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You’ve got lots of bed and breakfasts are all over the place.
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Literally you can’t walk down a street without finding like
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adorable houses and they have some
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of the best like shopping streets so like some
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of the blocks are very like geared towards like designer
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shops and stuff like that and then you’ve got coffee shops you’ve got bookstores
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you’ve got I mean literally you name it they’ve got it and it’s adorable and
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it’s really well maintained and like manicured and like clearly there’s a lot
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of like thought and care put into each of these little houses and stuff.
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And with that being said, if you walk down what is known as Chalmers Street,
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I’m probably not pronouncing that right, but it’s C-H-A-L-M-E-R-S.
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Chalmers?
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Chalmers Street. Probably. So this particular little house that we’re going
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to talk about is on 17 Chalmers Street. Chalmers?
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Chalmers? Mars.
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I don’t know why I’m having a hard time with that. And it’s known as the Little Pink House.
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And it kind of looks like a little dollhouse. It’s very cute.
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And over the years, it’s been updated and kept like perfectly pristine.
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It was originally built out of Bermuda stone, which is known as like a forgotten stone.
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And it gives or it gave the house like a natural pink hue.
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But over time, they stuccoed the outside of the house, but the Bermuda Stone is still there.
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So underneath the stucco and everything.
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And so now it’s like painted pink, but it did used to be like naturally pink,
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which is kind of a cool little tidbit.
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And this little house is supposedly, and there’s a little bit of like speculation
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on this too, It’s supposed to be one of the oldest houses in Charleston.
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And because it’s been so well maintained over the years that like it’s gone
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through different owners and like multiple businesses and stuff like that.
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But it’s still perfectly manicured and like it’s held up.
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And the house is kind of unique in the sense that each one of the floors,
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it’s three floors, but each floor is one room.
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So like it’s very tiny house. And it’s kind of like that was the way the houses
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were built back in the day where it was just a single room on each floor.
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And it’s still the same. Like they haven’t really changed that.
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It’s still just a single room for each floor. So with that being said,
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the Pink House has been, it was a law office. It was art galleries.
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And where we’re going to kind of tap into the story is very famously,
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it was a tavern in like the 17th century.
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And there was a brothel on the top floors.
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And because of where this house is located, it’s in the coastal town.
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And so like obviously you have sailors that come and with sailors there are pirates,
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and so It it’s known like if you ask any local person about the pink house they’ll
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tell you that it’s haunted by ghosts and very specifically a female ghost and there’s been like,
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Reports of windows bursting open suddenly despite the fact that there’s no one around to open them Is.
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This the kind of windows are like shutters? They would like blow open two shutters
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That’s what I envision. That’s what I want it to be.
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Yeah, I feel like that would be the case. And then there’s also a ton of reports
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of footsteps walking up the stairs.
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And then when you turn around, there’s no one there. And so there’s been several,
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like, encounters of people, like, in over the years, especially as it was like
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an art gallery and it was the law office.
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Like, these people were experiencing these things. And then one very famous like,
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I guess, report of someone feeling something kind of creepy is a gentleman felt
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the sensation of like skittering down, like a sensation skittering down his spine.
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And when he turned around thinking that someone was behind him,
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like kind of like brushing up against him, he was completely alone in the room.
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There was no one there. So kind of weird.
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That makes me, ooh.
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And I know it’s kind of like a crazy, like all those different things.
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So there’s lots of different stories out there, and they’re all just around
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the same ghostly figure who is a female figure.
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And she is usually seen on the top floor of the house.
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And people have seen her in the window. People have seen her,
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they say, like wandering down the stairs and then back up the stairs.
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And she’s always wandering, like she’s walking around.
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She doesn’t really do anything harmful or like, you know, super scary.
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I mean, the fact that there’s a woman walking around, that’s not real. That’s kind of crazy.
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But people have seen this figure.
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And so, like, there’s this ongoing thing. And with that, the assumption that
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the spirit is the spirit of Anne Bonny, the very famous pirate. it.
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There’s a lot of speculation that she ran her business out of this house.
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Again, nothing can be confirmed and there’s lots of like tales and stories and
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stuff like that. But with that being said…
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Dina, tell us about the badass woman that was Anne Bonny.
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Well, I think you make a really good point and kind of like bring it back to
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everything that is Charleston.
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Because I know when I started getting fascinated by this area, We are…
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and especially how long it’s been around, right? 350 years. I was like,
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okay, why is this one of the most haunted places in our country,
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essentially? Like what led all these paranormal activities to center in this one area?
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And honestly, I just think it’s that when you have that much history in one
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small location, because I mean, it’s not like you can walk from one side of
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Charleston to the other, you know, like very quickly, but it’s still small-esque.
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It’s a small city.
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You know, like kind of like a Charlotte, you know, it’s a small,
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it’s a small city. But you have wars that have happened here.
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You have this slavery that went on here. You have epidemics.
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You have ships that have been lost at sea, right?
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And you have all of these wonderful characteristics, we could say,
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that kind of help create this American folklore, which so many people like to
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say that, you know, America doesn’t have its own culture because we’re kind of a melting pot.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But we really kind of started formulating our own based off of the origins of others. Right.
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So when when you bring up Anne Bonny, she is someone who emigrated to the United
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States with such a interesting backstory.
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And I’m just I still can’t with these pictures. I’m sorry.
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We’re going to we’re going to just tell people. OK, yeah.
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Let’s describe these.
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Fascinated all day.
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OK. So if you’ve ever seen the movie Brave. No, I’m just kidding.
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so ann bonnie was this irish lass
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right she apparently was from cork county cork
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right in ireland she’s got this like brave kind of hair like but i think brave
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was scottish but anywho irish red huge mane of hair right and she’s essentially
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pretty good looking right but these These pictures either show her scantily clad,
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we will say, or just complete boobs out.
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I know. Like all the way, guys. We’re not talking intense cleave.
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We’ll post them to our FauxTown website.
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I think what’s also fascinating about that is she’s fully clothed except for the boobies.
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The collar of her shirt doesn’t start until underneath her chest,
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as does her BFF that we’ll talk about, Mary Reid.
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Same thing. I don’t know if it was a quality for female pirates to do that.
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Just imagine the strength of like walking up to a guy like, I already know that
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you’re going to stare at my boobs. I’m just going to have them out. Let’s eliminate that.
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The only thing I could think is that it’s men’s clothing.
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So, yeah, anyway, let’s backtrack. So she has been a little rebel since she
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was younger, did not get along with her father, really didn’t want to do anything
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that he he pretty much put in front of her, wanted her to get married.
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She was like, nope, don’t want to do that.
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So she marries out of spite just to piss her father off. Gotta love that.
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To a man named James Bonney, who allegedly was a pirate, but he kind of sounded
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like a wimpy kind of pirate. She was not.
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She was the cooler one.
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She was totally the cooler one and kind of got bored of him and eventually set him adrift.
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Yeah.
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You know, because she was just like, yeah, I think you need to go into accounting
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or something because it’s not for you.
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It’s not working.
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But she became so well known on the ship, which is called Revenge.
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And the Revenge actually ties up well with a certain Blackbeard, the pirate.
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Yeah.
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But she just became this allegedly violent, tempered expert fencer and really
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kind of was a boss lady for this time, loved to be around that kind of environment.
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And the men really respected her more than a lot of the other ship captains.
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But I did read this and I have no idea what it means.
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So I want you guys to help me with this. It says when Ann and Mary Reed were
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also captured, it confessed that they said their sex and pleaded their bellies.
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They pleaded their bellies. What the hell does that mean?
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I’m not I don’t have any current pirates on speed dial. Maybe we could throw this into chat GPT.
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Yeah, pleaded their bellies. The only thing I could piece together is we’re.
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Women and we can still make babies. Yes.
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Maybe.
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Yes.
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Well, maybe that’s why they’re depicted in those photos. Also, topless.
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Like maybe there’s some tie in to exposing your chest and belly.
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I think you’re reaching to be like, hey, but that was it. Allegedly, when Ann was caught.
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And thrown into jail. She said she was pregnant. So she wasn’t hanged.
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Right. Because they won’t hang a woman who was with child.
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So there’s this whole war towards her death that some people say she just vanished
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after she was let out of jail.
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No one knows what happened to her. No one knows where she was buried.
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But then we have that she’s tied to the pink house.
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Yeah.
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Even though there’s no historical record.
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Yeah. There’s no history, like paperwork or anything saying that she.
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But because it was a brothel, I think there’s an assumption that she was there quite often.
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And the powder magazine, which you can still also walk by, which I’m not going to lie to you all.
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I definitely thought it was a real magazine. I thought it was called the powder.
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Took me too long.
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Takes a little minute.
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Took me too long to realize what that is.
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They had magazines?
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That it was not a magazine. It was about gunpowder and, you know,
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story and weapons and things like that.
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But apparently she haunts the powder magazine, which you can also visit and walk by.
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And again, no connection to her being there. There’s no story that ties her
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directly to it. I think just, you know, Anne gets a little fickle.
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Yeah.
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She just wants to bounce around a little bit.
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Just wandering around. Yeah. Just haunting people.
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And that’s where we really see, like, all of these ghost stories that we hear
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from this particular area.
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Yeah. Any of the urban legends that we’re going to talk about,
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any of the mysteries that come out.
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There’s no real solid evidence to prove that any of this was actually true.
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And I think Charleston really kind of capitalized on that.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, there’s so many books that have been put out,
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published, just like diving into so much of the lore that is…
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Charleston and creating some really great stories i mean they’ve they’ve creeped
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me out and helped inspire you know captain jack sparrow with blackbeard yes and that.
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Brings it up to our boy mr blackbeard keeping this pirate thing going so this guy i mean.
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Please say his real name i also his name was edward teach just like i feel.
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Like blackbeard is one of those pirates that but everybody knows the name,
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right? Maybe they don’t know the story behind him, but like everybody knows.
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And so many places have used his like caricature.
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Caricature?
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His likeness. His likeness.
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If you will.
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Yeah.
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So he has that, just think Captain Black, Jack Sparrow.
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He’s got like the long braids and the big beard, but he was born in Bristol,
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England as Edward Teach.
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speech and he was also probably an
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accountant he could read and write which means he probably came from like a
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legit family a wealthy family i think this is just like the most screw you to
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the parents i thought ambani had it but perhaps blackbeard did uh he was like
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nope i’m out i don’t want this and i’m gonna just steal some ships i.
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Want to just uh interrupt there that i I think that is also kind of the myth of a pirate.
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Like, we think that they are these ruthless men who just, you know, are…
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Swashbucklers. Yeah, I love that word. Me too.
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And, you know, go against and rebel against authority and stuff like that.
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But really, from what I have learned about pirates from all of this,
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they really were just people who were dealing with overcrowding in their areas, unemployment,
00:21:47.151 –> 00:21:53.531
things like that, and decided to get into piracy to kind of try and…
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make some luck for themselves you.
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Know for sure i mean so blackbeard i mean
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his nickname came from the fact that again he had a long black beard he
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wore braided hair tied up with ribbons and to
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make so pretty to make himself seem more menacing menacing
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take out the ribbons no he’d walk around with pistols slung over his shoulders
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and he would keep lit fuses under the brim of his hat so as he walked it’d be
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like a cloud of smoke around his face that’s intense first of all you’re You’re
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really trusting that nothing’s going to burn you and your hair is not going to go a light in flames.
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But whatever. This dude had 14 wives. So I don’t think he really thought a lot of things through.
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Wow.
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But he was a privateer during Queen Anne’s war, which kind of led to what he
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did with his flagship ship that we all know.
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His flagship ship.
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His flagship ship. Queen Anne’s Revenge. That was his big ship.
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He acquired it in 1718 and he tricked that thing out. He put 40 guns around that bad boy.
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He was like, I’m taking everyone out. And he loaded it up with several hundred men.
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He had stolen four ships at this time. So four ships, several hundred men.
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They went and set sail to Charleston.
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And this story is so hilarious because when we were doing the research for this
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about like, how the hell does Blackbeard have anything to do with Charleston?
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Other than he’s a pirate.
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So much.
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So he has this wonderful story about the blockade of Charleston.
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So he rolls up in and he’s like, hey, Robert Johnson, who was the governor at
00:23:29.220 –> 00:23:33.900
the time, we are going to take ransom.
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All your people. We’re going to take Samuel Rag, who is he was the South Carolina’s
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provincial grand council at the time.
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And we’re going to take him. He was the guy.
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We’re going to take a bunch of people. We’re going to steal their things and
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they’re going to hang out on our ship.
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And we don’t want gold. We don’t want jewels. We have those things.
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You can keep your rum.
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We just want a chest of medicine. Because we are riddled with the clap. crap.
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Everyone on his four ships had STDs. And he was like, I need some antibiotics.
00:24:08.560 –> 00:24:14.100
My crotch is itching so bad. And I need your help. And so it took like a week
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of negotiations back and forth.
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And eventually Robert Johnson was like, okay, fine, we can have the exchange.
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And he gives them all of his medication.
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It was a 400-pound chest of medication. and after
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the week you know i’m sure wonderful for them they all got
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to get their crotches on itchy and they all sailed sailed
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away but during this time it kind of ties to the main story of
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this our boy steed bonnet um his ship was overtaken by blackbeard and he was
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like pumped about it because he was such a shitty pirate that he was like great
00:24:47.060 –> 00:24:52.140
somebody else is taking control like i suck at this and he ended up getting
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pardoned for his crimes because he was like wasn’t me he He took my ship.
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I don’t know what to tell you.
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So Steve Bonnet was a little bit of a pansy. Okay. But, you know.
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Which I swear I kept reading about all these male pirates that we’ve all read
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about that in reality, they really were kind of a little frou-frou.
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And you know what’s so crazy is like, all right, we have all heard the Blackbeard story, right?
00:25:14.480 –> 00:25:19.240
You think he’s some prolific pirate that was pirateeering for decades and decades and decades.
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This only went on for like four or five years of him pirating.
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But after he left the holy city of Charleston, South Carolina,
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he went back up north to the coast of the Carolinas and he went to the Beaufort
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Inlet in North Carolina.
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And that’s where he met his demise. And his crew was bombarded on Orocoke Island and Ocracroke.
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Ocracroke. I’ve never been there. Have you been there?
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Yes. Oh, my God. That’s where we vacation.
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Oh, that’s adorable.
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Outer Banks. Ocracroke. It’s excellent.
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Excellent there was apparently not too.
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Far from charleston like.
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No it’s.
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Like a hop skip and a jump yeah yeah.
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It’s a couple hours well then he sucks even more because a little battle ensued and,
00:25:59.850 –> 00:26:02.710
blackbeard and a bunch of his men were killed this is actually kind of rough
00:26:02.710 –> 00:26:06.510
i mean like good for him dude but he was killed and his body was thrown out
00:26:06.510 –> 00:26:11.310
to sea but they his enemy took his head and displayed it on the prow of the
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ship and like sailed with his head he did something but this This kind of brings
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us to my next haunting story.
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We’re talking about the Pirate House. Oh, okay. Yeah, the Pirate House was built
00:26:22.270 –> 00:26:24.610
with brick and Bermuda stone in 1740.
00:26:24.810 –> 00:26:28.570
I think that’s like the main stone used throughout Charleston.
00:26:28.610 –> 00:26:35.730
For sure. And it was, again, a hot mess express of bars and brothels and drinking.
00:26:35.990 –> 00:26:40.470
But also all of the things that the pirates had stolen, they couldn’t sell at
00:26:40.470 –> 00:26:43.770
the port because they know they have to pay these crazy high tariffs and taxes.
00:26:43.770 –> 00:26:48.150
So there was a courtyard behind the Pirates Bar, which is still there to this
00:26:48.150 –> 00:26:50.490
day, by the way, the Pirates Bar. You can go there.
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But there was a little courtyard that was kind of hidden that overlooked St. Philip’s Cemetery.
00:26:56.530 –> 00:27:00.590
And they would do all of their, like, illegal dealings back there so that they wouldn’t get caught.
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But it’s actually really pretty. So you wouldn’t know.
00:27:06.070 –> 00:27:09.730
But because of all of the pirates that have gone through there and,
00:27:09.730 –> 00:27:12.010
you know, they call it one of –
00:27:12.370 –> 00:27:15.630
We found this out in almost all of the things. Everything is the most haunted
00:27:15.630 –> 00:27:16.790
building in Charleston.
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Literally every building.
00:27:17.810 –> 00:27:20.630
Every single thing. But lots of people have said that, you know,
00:27:20.690 –> 00:27:21.950
it’s haunted with pirates.
00:27:22.070 –> 00:27:24.670
It’s haunted with the ghost of Blackbeard. It’s haunted with the ghost of the
00:27:24.670 –> 00:27:26.790
poor people that had to work in there.
00:27:27.030 –> 00:27:32.390
But my absolute favorite ghost story is there is a tour group walking along
00:27:32.390 –> 00:27:36.150
there in the early 2000s. So there’s an alley that goes along the Pirate House.
00:27:36.410 –> 00:27:39.670
And one of the tour members stopped and he had this like super creeped out look
00:27:39.670 –> 00:27:43.030
on his face. And they were like, you good, bro? And he’s like, nope, I’m not.
00:27:43.610 –> 00:27:46.570
You don’t see him. And then all of a sudden he couldn’t speak.
00:27:46.730 –> 00:27:49.310
And it was like he was in a trance and nobody could get him out of this trance.
00:27:49.750 –> 00:27:53.050
And then a couple of minutes later, he’s like, you don’t see him. You don’t see him.
00:27:53.370 –> 00:27:56.810
And he comes out of the trance. And he said, he touched my neck. He grabbed my neck.
00:27:56.970 –> 00:28:01.870
He said that he saw a ghost of a man hanging from a tree, which brings us back
00:28:01.870 –> 00:28:06.390
to our boy Steve Bonnet, who was being there and he was struggling to get out
00:28:06.390 –> 00:28:08.530
of the noose. And he was hanging up in the tree.
00:28:08.670 –> 00:28:15.250
And this guy was super spooked out. And this happens in the alley of Pirate’s Bar.
00:28:15.510 –> 00:28:19.110
But what’s even crazier is everybody says that Blackbeard’s Treasure is buried
00:28:19.110 –> 00:28:23.810
underneath this bar, which everywhere, I’m sure, says that Blackbeard’s Treasure was buried there.
00:28:23.910 –> 00:28:26.610
But that’s why so many pirates still haunt it to this day.
00:28:26.670 –> 00:28:27.750
I wonder. So there’s like.
00:28:27.790 –> 00:28:28.370
Unfinished business.
00:28:28.410 –> 00:28:32.770
When doing some of the research, too, I noticed several different mentions of
00:28:32.770 –> 00:28:36.630
the fact that there’s an alleyway between two buildings.
00:28:36.670 –> 00:28:39.050
I’m wondering if it’s in this same area.
00:28:39.050 –> 00:28:41.570
I’m sure because it goes straight to the cemetery.
00:28:41.770 –> 00:28:43.350
The gates of hell are there.
00:28:43.350 –> 00:28:46.890
Oh, fantastic. Well, that brings us to my favorite haunting story.
00:28:46.950 –> 00:28:51.570
I feel like I heard that in relations with the Unitarian Church. Maybe?
00:28:51.710 –> 00:28:52.750
Oh, there’s probably, yeah.
00:28:52.790 –> 00:28:56.970
There’s several, like in several different stories and like different sources
00:28:56.970 –> 00:28:58.850
and places that I was looking at stories.
00:28:59.110 –> 00:29:02.350
I kept seeing variations of it.
00:29:02.390 –> 00:29:06.270
So I think it’s one of those like it probably has moved around a little bit,
00:29:06.330 –> 00:29:08.670
but there’s a definite tie there.
00:29:19.528 –> 00:29:22.748
As far as I know, too, some of these areas for a while, like,
00:29:22.808 –> 00:29:27.288
wouldn’t let people in, right? And then eventually tour groups got permission.
00:29:27.628 –> 00:29:29.748
Yeah, they became private. Like, private owners didn’t want people.
00:29:29.748 –> 00:29:32.148
I’m sure that helped, you know, entice the tourists.
00:29:32.648 –> 00:29:33.048
100%.
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But if you’re going to bring it back to see Bonnet, like, I can’t.
00:29:36.068 –> 00:29:36.888
No, I’m bringing it.
00:29:36.908 –> 00:29:37.708
Oh, come on. I’m so excited.
00:29:37.708 –> 00:29:40.028
I will at the end, but now I’m talking about haunting dogs.
00:29:40.408 –> 00:29:41.288
Oh, yay, Pooh!
00:29:41.408 –> 00:29:42.828
We’re going to Poogan’s Porch.
00:29:42.928 –> 00:29:43.328
Poogan!
00:29:43.688 –> 00:29:44.408
Poogan’s Porch.
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It’s.
00:29:45.288 –> 00:29:50.388
A grand victorian home that now houses poogan’s porch on 72 queen street so
00:29:50.388 –> 00:29:55.608
it was built in 1888 it’s one of those places it’s still to this day like a bar restaurant.
00:29:55.608 –> 00:29:58.528
You can go eat it it’s so cute yeah super.
00:29:58.528 –> 00:29:59.428
Cute and so the.
00:29:59.428 –> 00:30:04.268
But very small on the inside like it’s what i feel like for for new york city
00:30:04.268 –> 00:30:08.728
people like we get that yeah restaurants like this like aren’t like that’s a
00:30:08.728 –> 00:30:10.388
home i don’t know if you to.
00:30:10.388 –> 00:30:15.268
Add to that i don’t know if you went into any of the the restaurants or places
00:30:15.268 –> 00:30:18.908
throughout charleston but most of them are itty bitty on.
00:30:18.908 –> 00:30:24.008
The inside yeah i stayed on on king street mostly okay but i those are like
00:30:24.008 –> 00:30:28.208
touch this more modern a lot of the like cutesy.
00:30:28.208 –> 00:30:32.388
Like coffee shops and like bed and breakfast they’re all super.
00:30:32.388 –> 00:30:37.728
It’s like they’ve renovated the houses that were there yeah yeah yeah that’s what this was.
00:30:37.728 –> 00:30:38.928
This was a resident residential.
00:30:38.928 –> 00:30:39.508
Home that.
00:30:39.508 –> 00:30:43.488
Then became purchased and the previous owners left so quickly and they don’t
00:30:43.488 –> 00:30:45.048
know why they left. They have no idea why.
00:30:45.168 –> 00:30:48.448
They didn’t bring their doggy with them and he was a little wiry-haired white
00:30:48.448 –> 00:30:52.668
dog named Pugin and they left him without anything and the new owners were like,
00:30:52.708 –> 00:30:55.588
why would they leave such a little cutie pie behind and they named him Pugin
00:30:55.588 –> 00:30:59.288
and the dog became the restaurant-like,
00:31:00.474 –> 00:31:04.974
I guess he was the mascot. Yeah. And he would wander like porch to porch looking
00:31:04.974 –> 00:31:07.854
for food. And everybody was like, give this dog food. He’s adorable.
00:31:08.254 –> 00:31:11.234
So the owners began to joke that the porch didn’t belong to them.
00:31:11.274 –> 00:31:12.894
That was Pugin’s porch. It was his porch.
00:31:13.114 –> 00:31:16.874
And so he was a real dog and not like a restaurant story.
00:31:17.434 –> 00:31:20.294
And he died in 1979.
00:31:21.694 –> 00:31:26.074
But they say that you can catch a glimpse of a ghostly dog. I just liked that story.
00:31:26.214 –> 00:31:30.314
That’s not the main haunting of Pugin’s porch. I just like that there’s a fuzzy
00:31:30.314 –> 00:31:32.294
dog that’s haunting you on the porch.
00:31:32.694 –> 00:31:35.134
But this story is kind of, this is really sad.
00:31:35.574 –> 00:31:43.194
So the restaurant in 1900s was home to this beautiful young little girl named
00:31:43.194 –> 00:31:45.834
Zoe St. Amand. And she lived there with her sister, Elizabeth.
00:31:46.334 –> 00:31:51.154
So Zoe was a school teacher and poor girl. She’d given up on finding true love.
00:31:51.234 –> 00:31:54.354
So she was like, I’m just going to live with my sister. Sounds about right.
00:31:55.314 –> 00:31:58.594
I’m just going to be. She said that everyone in the neighborhood thought she
00:31:58.594 –> 00:31:59.874
was nothing more than a spinster.
00:32:00.194 –> 00:32:03.994
And her choice of clothing apparently didn’t help in disproving her reputation.
00:32:04.254 –> 00:32:08.934
She was seen frequently wearing long black dresses and thin framed glasses, which honestly lit.
00:32:08.934 –> 00:32:09.934
She would fit in so well now.
00:32:09.934 –> 00:32:10.314
So fire.
00:32:10.334 –> 00:32:12.874
I think the majority of my closet is just black.
00:32:13.034 –> 00:32:17.934
Yeah. So hard, hard times here. In 1945, Elizabeth passed away.
00:32:18.514 –> 00:32:24.214
And with her gone, Zoe kind of just became super withdrawn, almost like agoraphobic.
00:32:24.314 –> 00:32:25.954
She was in the house. She never left.
00:32:26.294 –> 00:32:30.514
She was super, super depressed, and her mental health kind of hit the crapper.
00:32:30.774 –> 00:32:35.294
And then one night she left the house, and, like, everyone had kind of accepted
00:32:35.294 –> 00:32:36.654
the fact that she lost it.
00:32:36.754 –> 00:32:37.094
Yeah.
00:32:37.174 –> 00:32:39.754
And she was walking down the street yelling her sister’s name,
00:32:39.894 –> 00:32:43.554
and neighbors came out to check on her, and they took her to a hospital.
00:32:43.834 –> 00:32:47.634
But she spent the rest of her life in the hospital.
00:32:47.974 –> 00:32:54.794
So the ghost of Zoe haunts the house. And, okay, so we’re going to—the whole of this state is so—,
00:32:55.860 –> 00:33:01.460
Like we said, it’s very, very old, right? But these are modern haunting stories, which I truly love.
00:33:02.180 –> 00:33:05.440
There is staff members who say that they see her ghost all the time.
00:33:06.080 –> 00:33:11.840
But my favorite is somebody staying across the hotel, across the street at the
00:33:11.840 –> 00:33:15.620
hotel, which we’re going to talk about in a later episode, across the street from Pugin’s.
00:33:15.780 –> 00:33:18.860
They’ll see an elderly woman, which she died when she was elderly,
00:33:19.140 –> 00:33:22.380
in a black dress standing on the top window.
00:33:22.800 –> 00:33:25.600
And she looks very forlorn, like she’s looking for something.
00:33:26.340 –> 00:33:30.880
but there is a guy named Mr.
00:33:30.900 –> 00:33:35.120
Ball who works there as a daytime chef.
00:33:35.380 –> 00:33:38.800
And so it was really early in the morning. He made himself some coffee and he
00:33:38.800 –> 00:33:40.660
was going to get going with his prep work, of course.
00:33:41.540 –> 00:33:44.800
So he heard a knock at the back door. It was a delivery from his produce guy.
00:33:44.900 –> 00:33:47.980
So he goes, puts his coffee down on the stool, answers the door,
00:33:48.100 –> 00:33:51.100
brings his produce in, goes back, coffee’s not there.
00:33:51.140 –> 00:33:53.020
I was so just kidding. I was like, his coffee’s not there.
00:33:53.180 –> 00:33:55.860
Not only is the coffee not in the cup, The coffee cup is gone.
00:33:55.980 –> 00:33:58.280
He’s like, I am the only one in the building. They’re all alarm set.
00:33:59.840 –> 00:34:02.220
And then he’s like, you know what? It’s so early in the day.
00:34:02.240 –> 00:34:05.080
I probably never even poured myself a cup of coffee. I’m just misremembering
00:34:05.080 –> 00:34:06.680
this. We all had those moments.
00:34:06.980 –> 00:34:09.140
Yeah, because you’re trying to make sense of the situation.
00:34:09.640 –> 00:34:13.680
So he’s like, it’s super early. I’m not all the way awake. I’m going to pour
00:34:13.680 –> 00:34:17.280
myself another cup of coffee. Pours himself another cup of coffee. Sits down.
00:34:19.080 –> 00:34:22.960
Well, then he’s like, huh, I’m just going to sit down, start my day.
00:34:22.960 –> 00:34:28.940
picks it up, puts it down and now he looks down, his cup of coffee’s back. Right there.
00:34:29.040 –> 00:34:29.400
Wonderful.
00:34:29.540 –> 00:34:33.940
And there’s a lipstick mark across the cup. Yes.
00:34:33.940 –> 00:34:36.320
You mean to tell me she couldn’t even wipe her lipstick off?
00:34:36.560 –> 00:34:41.380
I’m proud of her for being so still wearing lipstick. What a lady. What a lady.
00:34:42.500 –> 00:34:45.880
That’s probably my favorite one, but there’s another one where this poor girl,
00:34:45.920 –> 00:34:49.740
she was cleaning up at the end of the night and if you’ve ever closed a restaurant down,
00:34:50.639 –> 00:34:52.659
I mean, I’ve never worked in a haunted restaurant, but if you’ve ever closed
00:34:52.659 –> 00:34:54.599
a restaurant down at night and you’re the only one in there.
00:34:54.719 –> 00:34:55.039
Terrifying.
00:34:55.159 –> 00:34:55.479
It’s terrifying.
00:34:55.699 –> 00:34:55.839
Yeah.
00:34:55.879 –> 00:34:57.139
Even if it’s not haunted, it’s terrifying.
00:34:57.179 –> 00:34:57.759
It’s just creepy.
00:34:57.819 –> 00:35:01.939
So she’s closing up, she’s cleaning up, and then she felt the whole time that
00:35:01.939 –> 00:35:04.539
she was cleaning, someone was behind her or watching her.
00:35:04.579 –> 00:35:06.159
You know when you have that feeling? I hate that feeling, yeah.
00:35:06.819 –> 00:35:10.139
So she’s like- That’s similar to the pink house. Yes. That’s what so many of
00:35:10.139 –> 00:35:12.759
the people talked about, that like walking up and down the stairs,
00:35:12.939 –> 00:35:14.639
you constantly felt like someone
00:35:14.639 –> 00:35:16.799
was behind you, but when you turned around, there was no one there.
00:35:17.399 –> 00:35:17.759
Okay.
00:35:17.919 –> 00:35:18.279
Well.
00:35:18.279 –> 00:35:21.699
Well, so she starts cleaning.
00:35:22.439 –> 00:35:27.359
She’s like, okay, there is someone behind me. So she looks up into a mirror.
00:35:27.419 –> 00:35:29.199
So there’s a big mirror and she looks up into the mirror.
00:35:30.199 –> 00:35:36.779
And she looks and sees not only her own reflection, but the face of an old woman
00:35:36.779 –> 00:35:39.859
wearing thin wire glasses and a black dress.
00:35:41.299 –> 00:35:45.899
And she spoke into the mirror and she was like, because she knows you work there.
00:35:45.939 –> 00:35:49.259
I’m sure you’ve heard these stories. And she says, Zoe, is that you?
00:35:49.339 –> 00:35:51.999
And she just watched the image disappear from the mirror. What?
00:35:53.099 –> 00:35:57.679
Gross. Whoa. That’s so gross. And then there’s another one. I mean,
00:35:57.699 –> 00:35:58.739
like there’s a million of these.
00:35:58.739 –> 00:36:00.039
This is at Pugin’s.
00:36:00.039 –> 00:36:00.999
It’s like the restaurant.
00:36:01.199 –> 00:36:01.379
Yeah.
00:36:01.919 –> 00:36:05.819
There’s another story about a pastry chef who, very similar to the coffee guy,
00:36:06.039 –> 00:36:09.259
she was completely alone and she was jamming out on the radio.
00:36:09.399 –> 00:36:14.819
No, as you do, you’re alone. You’re working. And pastry chefs have to get there so god-awfully early.
00:36:15.079 –> 00:36:16.239
Yeah, like 5 a.m.
00:36:16.239 –> 00:36:16.879
Yes. Yes, there’s like four.
00:36:16.879 –> 00:36:17.739
Maybe more. Yeah.
00:36:17.819 –> 00:36:19.239
I mean, we’ve all watched The Bear.
00:36:19.439 –> 00:36:19.759
Yep.
00:36:19.839 –> 00:36:25.599
They were in there so early. And so she heard some noise and she was like, huh, who’s upstairs?
00:36:25.759 –> 00:36:28.239
Nobody is supposed to be upstairs. And I think there’s rooms upstairs.
00:36:29.019 –> 00:36:31.859
Oh, is it maybe like a little bit of like an Airbnb type thing?
00:36:32.039 –> 00:36:32.379
Yeah, I think so.
00:36:32.479 –> 00:36:32.659
Or not.
00:36:32.779 –> 00:36:33.459
Bed and breakfast. And so she
00:36:33.459 –> 00:36:36.639
was like, huh, it sounds like something happened. So she goes upstairs.
00:36:37.457 –> 00:36:42.017
and she heard it over her radio, which she was like, that’s kind of weird because I’m blasting this.
00:36:42.257 –> 00:36:46.797
And so she goes upstairs and when she got to the top floor, she’s like looking
00:36:46.797 –> 00:36:48.537
around, she’s looking, she doesn’t see anything.
00:36:48.777 –> 00:36:51.577
And then she’s like, I don’t know. I’m like losing my mind. I’m not going to
00:36:51.577 –> 00:36:55.717
see anything. So she goes back down to the radio or back downstairs, turns the radio on.
00:36:56.117 –> 00:37:00.297
And a few songs, a few songs after this, one of her favorite songs come on.
00:37:00.377 –> 00:37:01.617
And so she’s singing along.
00:37:01.977 –> 00:37:05.157
And then all of a sudden a voice in her ear is
00:37:05.157 –> 00:37:09.177
singing along with her and she turns around thinking one of her co-workers is
00:37:09.177 –> 00:37:14.357
like playing a joke on her but no one was there and again the alarm was set
00:37:14.357 –> 00:37:19.057
so like if anyone had gone in she would have heard the alarm go off right but
00:37:19.057 –> 00:37:24.017
nothing in there and she heard like in her ear another woman singing with her i’m.
00:37:24.017 –> 00:37:27.717
Telling you i want to be so skeptical about these stories because i noticed
00:37:27.717 –> 00:37:33.197
each one was like and she was alone you know the person was alone and then i
00:37:33.197 –> 00:37:37.637
think about mine and i was I was alone, so I’m not going to comment because it could happen.
00:37:38.117 –> 00:37:39.977
I kind of, I buy into it.
00:37:40.077 –> 00:37:46.057
Yeah, I think, too, like when you are alone, you very much, you’re very aware
00:37:46.057 –> 00:37:47.797
of your surroundings, I think.
00:37:47.857 –> 00:37:51.257
At least for me, like when I was younger and I’d be like walking home from,
00:37:51.297 –> 00:37:56.457
you know, my neighbor’s house or something to my house in the country where
00:37:56.457 –> 00:37:57.797
there’s no lights or anything.
00:37:58.037 –> 00:38:01.757
And you start walking and like, of course, you’re probably surrounded by all
00:38:01.757 –> 00:38:03.657
kinds of creepy things. But like, you know.
00:38:03.677 –> 00:38:04.977
Your mind’s playing tricks. Right.
00:38:05.037 –> 00:38:09.677
And you just start like really thinking you hear things or you see things or
00:38:09.677 –> 00:38:13.717
like that was definitely a branch that just snapped. Yeah.
00:38:14.197 –> 00:38:19.837
There’s so much of that. But I think like when you’re in a building, you for sure.
00:38:20.277 –> 00:38:25.917
Like, yeah, I’ve worked in like old houses. I used to help stage like antique
00:38:25.917 –> 00:38:29.797
furniture in like houses that are being like renovated.
00:38:29.797 –> 00:38:34.957
And I was in this one farmhouse one time and there was an attic and the attic
00:38:34.957 –> 00:38:39.857
was filled to like the ceiling with books, like so many books. Right. So exciting.
00:38:39.997 –> 00:38:42.597
However, there were also lots of snake skins.
00:38:43.077 –> 00:38:47.317
And so it was like kind of terrifying. You know, you’re like probably we’ll
00:38:47.317 –> 00:38:49.857
find a giant snake and there were giant snakes in the backyard.
00:38:50.017 –> 00:38:51.257
So like there are snakes in there.
00:38:51.457 –> 00:38:55.597
But the weirdest thing about that place is I had only gone there like three
00:38:55.597 –> 00:39:00.637
times. And each time I would go there, I’d end up being there alone for some period of time.
00:39:01.117 –> 00:39:06.017
And every single time I would go, something weird would happen.
00:39:06.297 –> 00:39:10.777
A sound of like someone up in the attic when no one else was in the house.
00:39:11.197 –> 00:39:15.937
There was a door that was slammed shut, but there was no one around. No windows were open.
00:39:16.577 –> 00:39:20.337
Like this stuff actually happened while at the house.
00:39:20.437 –> 00:39:28.717
And like I was 16, 17 maybe. And so, like, as a younger girl alone in a house
00:39:28.717 –> 00:39:32.757
that you’re, like, staging for people to come and buy the house…
00:39:33.763 –> 00:39:37.123
It was super creepy and like i these things
00:39:37.123 –> 00:39:40.383
happened like there was definitely something upstairs at
00:39:40.383 –> 00:39:46.003
some point there was definitely like someone opened and closed doors and then
00:39:46.003 –> 00:39:49.643
just like other like you i don’t know if this has ever happened have you ever
00:39:49.643 –> 00:39:56.623
gone into a place yes and there’s just a feeling oh god yes of like there’s
00:39:56.623 –> 00:39:59.243
clearly something here the energy.
00:39:59.243 –> 00:40:03.863
Is off But that sometimes can be I’m going to I just want to play devil’s advocate
00:40:03.863 –> 00:40:09.483
just for the sake of that can be yourself kind of projecting that from from all.
00:40:09.483 –> 00:40:10.943
The reading and the stories.
00:40:10.943 –> 00:40:15.523
That you’ve already heard. Right. Like, OK, I would walk into places like this
00:40:15.523 –> 00:40:17.023
with these stories on my mind.
00:40:17.063 –> 00:40:21.483
So then if I saw something or I heard something out of the corner of my my eye
00:40:21.483 –> 00:40:24.363
or like I thought I heard something, I’d immediately go back to being like.
00:40:24.383 –> 00:40:29.703
Yeah. And say in the pirate house that you feel like standing outside of it,
00:40:29.723 –> 00:40:33.023
and especially in the courtyard, people are like, you feel like menacing,
00:40:33.023 –> 00:40:34.663
like pirate-like spirits.
00:40:34.723 –> 00:40:37.683
Like it’s jovial fun, but also like straight illegal.
00:40:38.063 –> 00:40:42.363
And I think that’s my favorite part of these stories is like,
00:40:43.023 –> 00:40:43.923
ghosts are scary enough.
00:40:44.283 –> 00:40:46.623
Pirate ghosts, how fun. Yeah.
00:40:46.703 –> 00:40:48.783
I feel like I don’t feel scared of those.
00:40:48.803 –> 00:40:49.683
I’m pumped for pirate ghosts.
00:40:49.683 –> 00:40:50.663
They just want to have a good time.
00:40:50.663 –> 00:40:54.983
There’s like a but I guess where I was going with that thought was in the house
00:40:54.983 –> 00:40:59.623
specifically was like you I would feel like sick to my stomach,
00:40:59.863 –> 00:41:04.003
which was like a very weird thing to feel when you’re just like doing something
00:41:04.003 –> 00:41:06.823
in the house. And you’re like, why do I feel like this?
00:41:06.983 –> 00:41:09.103
And it would only happen in the house.
00:41:09.723 –> 00:41:14.603
And so like in my mind, your body was kind of connection there,
00:41:14.643 –> 00:41:18.663
which like you hear these stories of like all the different houses and stuff.
00:41:18.663 –> 00:41:21.343
Like I wonder if these people also felt these physical,
00:41:22.815 –> 00:41:26.195
You know, like with the one guy feeling something like down his spine,
00:41:26.395 –> 00:41:33.035
like that’s like a sensation that like obviously, you know, to what you were
00:41:33.035 –> 00:41:36.695
saying, Dina, is like sometimes I think it is your mind playing tricks on you.
00:41:36.775 –> 00:41:40.935
But then there’s also like that’s the thing. Like, I don’t know. It feels like.
00:41:40.935 –> 00:41:43.815
I think I’ve read too much. I’ve watched too much.
00:41:43.835 –> 00:41:46.995
I’ve done too many of those things that when I put myself in these situations,
00:41:47.115 –> 00:41:51.735
like, yeah, unless it’s going to be something right in my face that I cannot dispute.
00:41:51.915 –> 00:41:55.055
Right. I’m always going to be like, nah, I just made that up. I did it to myself.
00:41:55.315 –> 00:41:55.515
Fair.
00:41:55.755 –> 00:42:01.355
And I blame my mother. Sorry, Mom. Because she used to always tell me that I
00:42:01.355 –> 00:42:04.855
was imagining things and me could go back to bed even though I did not want to sleep by myself.
00:42:05.435 –> 00:42:09.155
So I just have her in my head going, just made it up. It’s fine.
00:42:09.735 –> 00:42:15.735
Which is a good way to be if you like spooky things because you can very easily get freaked out.
00:42:15.775 –> 00:42:16.855
I think I do the opposite.
00:42:17.155 –> 00:42:20.215
With how scared I am of mostly everything, I don’t know how.
00:42:20.215 –> 00:42:23.075
Like this yeah I do the opposite because it’s so
00:42:23.075 –> 00:42:25.935
hard for me to get scared I convince myself I’m like
00:42:25.935 –> 00:42:29.035
that was a ghost yeah meanwhile it’s
00:42:29.035 –> 00:42:31.895
just me dropping something you know but I I like the
00:42:31.895 –> 00:42:35.975
feeling of being scared so I sometimes I think I manifest it but this is what
00:42:35.975 –> 00:42:41.815
I want to ask before we wrap up this episode did you guys feel that in any of
00:42:41.815 –> 00:42:47.075
your I mean like I know we know Dina’s story but we are saving that yeah that’s
00:42:47.075 –> 00:42:50.735
good but I do want to know did you guys like feel that energy anywhere that you went?
00:42:50.935 –> 00:42:55.815
The only one, so we did, the tour that we did when we went to Charleston was
00:42:55.815 –> 00:42:58.255
a horse-drawn carriage ride.
00:42:58.335 –> 00:43:01.835
So we weren’t like walking, I know, right? It was spooky because it was at night.
00:43:02.255 –> 00:43:10.035
So we definitely, we definitely had the feeling of like, depending on where you were riding past,
00:43:10.295 –> 00:43:18.415
the only spot that I felt like an uneasy feeling, I guess, was a church that we went by,
00:43:18.695 –> 00:43:21.815
and they told this story about a screaming banshee.
00:43:21.915 –> 00:43:27.115
And it was this, like, intense woman who, like, people would hear her screaming at night.
00:43:27.135 –> 00:43:28.555
Maybe it was our girl Zoe looking for her sister.
00:43:28.815 –> 00:43:33.035
Exactly. Like, there’s so many versions of that. But that was the only…
00:43:33.035 –> 00:43:35.075
And I think because the story was so…
00:43:36.355 –> 00:43:39.335
whoa, like hundreds of bodies were
00:43:39.335 –> 00:43:43.075
buried in the cemetery on top of each other. It was like a mass grave.
00:43:43.355 –> 00:43:49.755
And I think like when you think when you actually think about that and you’re
00:43:49.755 –> 00:43:55.175
on the tour, it’s like, oh, wow, like that’s heavy. Now. Yeah.
00:43:55.275 –> 00:43:59.095
So like Steve Bonnet, who was our story that we started the episode with,
00:43:59.215 –> 00:44:04.655
that is everyone says that they can feel his ghost in the tree that he He was hung.
00:44:04.755 –> 00:44:04.975
Yeah.
00:44:05.455 –> 00:44:05.855
Hanged.
00:44:05.955 –> 00:44:06.255
Yeah.
00:44:06.375 –> 00:44:09.775
The tree that he was hanged. We just we guys, we had to look this up.
00:44:09.835 –> 00:44:09.975
Yeah.
00:44:10.055 –> 00:44:12.355
Don’t judge us. We wanted to make sure we were chromatically correct.
00:44:12.455 –> 00:44:14.015
In the tree that he was hanged.
00:44:14.155 –> 00:44:19.535
And they say that he is one of the main ghosts. Yeah. Because he was hung, hanged.
00:44:20.135 –> 00:44:25.495
Cheese and rice. He was hanged in Charleston. So a lot of people say that he
00:44:25.495 –> 00:44:29.115
they hear him and see him walking up and down the streets, which again,
00:44:29.295 –> 00:44:31.235
I just want to see a pirate ghost.
00:44:31.415 –> 00:44:36.615
Well, that was a big trial, too. I mean, it was the Charleston Pirate Trials
00:44:36.615 –> 00:44:38.355
of 1718, I believe, was when.
00:44:38.735 –> 00:44:43.475
So it was him as well as, I want to say, like 30 other pirates.
00:44:43.595 –> 00:44:44.035
Other pirates.
00:44:44.175 –> 00:44:47.595
Yeah, it was a significant amount of them. I could see them all kind of like
00:44:47.595 –> 00:44:52.095
getting to the pearly gates and being like, no, no, no. We still got work to do.
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And then finding out Blackbeard put his treasure underneath the pirate house.
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Of course you’re going back to get that.
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Exactly.
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Blackbeard took your ship.
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Yeah. Yeah, I will say there was like Steve Bonnet’s backstory.
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I don’t know if you read this, but I thought it was the funniest thing I’ve ever read.
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Please share.
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Because we’ve been saying how these these pirates weren’t these big,
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bad, scary men. Right. That a lot of them seem to have been kind of cowardly. Yeah.
00:45:15.715 –> 00:45:19.635
I read that Bonnet not only was married, but he had three kids.
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He was this well-respected planter. So I’m getting this.
00:45:23.983 –> 00:45:30.803
Like very white guy image in my mind, you know, and he’s been married for nine years out of nowhere.
00:45:31.663 –> 00:45:35.563
Allegedly, it says he had these legal papers drawn to allow his wife and his
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two friends to oversee his affairs.
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He got on a sloop, armed himself, hired a crew and he was out.
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I’m so jealous of that.
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Legit everyone, including his wife, was like, what just happened?
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And he literally was like.
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Peace out.
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Yeah. And just decided to become a pirate.
00:45:51.943 –> 00:45:55.203
I mean. It sounds so good.
00:45:55.383 –> 00:45:57.963
But also, do you ever wonder if all these pirates just came up,
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like, they made their own stories and, like, just started telling,
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like, one guy and then the guy would tell another guy and then another.
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You know, like, just, like, word of mouth stories that, like,
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get worse and worse the further along.
00:46:07.683 –> 00:46:10.443
Like, did you ever play, like, Telephone as, like, a kid where,
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like, you tell the first person something and then by the time it gets to the
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end it’s something completely different and you’re, like, seriously.
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Imagine, like, you leave the port and then you come back to the port and you
00:46:18.643 –> 00:46:21.003
hear new stories and you’re, like, hmm, that went out.
00:46:21.163 –> 00:46:22.223
Who is that guy?
00:46:22.223 –> 00:46:27.803
Did you ever watch The Witcher? The guy that sings the song?
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Yes.
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The beard?
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Yeah. Jack. Jock.
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Jock.
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The bard. The bard. Yeah. The bard of our gentleman pirate here.
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Yeah.
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But the bard was him. Yeah, exactly. Singing his own tales.
00:46:40.703 –> 00:46:43.943
But like, I mean, how else do stories get told, right? Absolutely.
00:46:43.943 –> 00:46:46.883
If you’re not telling your story, then how is anyone going to know about it?
00:46:47.623 –> 00:46:48.063
Exactly.
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Especially when there was no…
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There’s no… Yeah, there’s no written… Record. Yeah, records,
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which kind of is a good lead in for we’re going to, you know, wrap this episode up.
00:46:57.723 –> 00:47:05.463
But next week we are talking about all the haunted homes and the churchyards and graveyards.
00:47:05.763 –> 00:47:07.683
And we know graveyards are my thing.
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All of those things surrounding that. Yeah.
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But really, some of them are beautiful. You know, we really got.
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Of course.
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We got to throw throw a nod there, too, because some of the cemeteries are stunning.
00:47:19.343 –> 00:47:22.643
Charleston as a whole, like that whole, the whole town.
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If it’s considered a town.
00:47:24.967 –> 00:47:26.607
Charles Town is what it was originally called.
00:47:26.947 –> 00:47:32.567
It’s beautiful. It’s a beautiful little big place.
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With a muddy backstory. With a very dark. Very dark backstory.
00:47:36.867 –> 00:47:37.887
Hashtag it’s complicated.
00:47:38.227 –> 00:47:40.747
Very complicated. And we’re going to talk about that next week.
00:47:40.867 –> 00:47:44.787
But we wanted to kick season two off with something super fun. Pirates are fun.
00:47:45.007 –> 00:47:45.487
Yeah.
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It’s different. It’s fun. And it’s a great way to talk about this because that’s
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part of the history of how this city City was formed.
00:47:54.367 –> 00:47:55.727
Yep. Excellent.
00:47:56.387 –> 00:48:00.527
So that’s it for this one, but we will be back next week. And as always,
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head over to our social media. Yeah.
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If you guys want to dive deeper into the stories that we talked about today,
00:48:07.027 –> 00:48:11.407
you can head over to our website as well and get all the nitty gritty.
00:48:11.947 –> 00:48:14.767
Yeah, we’re going to put all of our sources up for our stories this season,
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kind of like we did for our season one.
00:48:17.427 –> 00:48:22.367
so if you guys want to dive deeper into this and again if you have a creepy
00:48:22.367 –> 00:48:26.947
Charleston haunting story share it with us because we’re going to start doing
00:48:26.947 –> 00:48:31.407
some extra content and we could read some of those yeah definitely and.
00:48:31.407 –> 00:48:35.427
Any like imagery that we talked about so any of the houses any of that kind
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of stuff we will put up on socials as well so you guys can actually see what we’re talking about.
00:48:39.627 –> 00:48:41.687
See the visuals they’re.
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Great so and for any of you literary fans out there so so much reading material.
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On this that.
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We have a huge book list that you can add to your tbr and uh if you find anything
00:48:55.747 –> 00:48:58.847
good definitely send it our way too because we will gobble that up.
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And we are nerds yep so that’s it okay until next.
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Time guys we’ll see you soon bye,
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folk.
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