The Boo Hag

Welcome to the season finale! In this episode, we’re plunging into the dark and eerie urban legends of Charleston, South Carolina. We explore tales that have haunted locals for centuries, including the horrifying story of the Boo Hag—a malevolent creature that wears people’s skin like a disguise and devours their souls. Prepare for a spine-tingling journey through Charleston’s supernatural lore, and hear Deena’s terrifying firsthand account of encountering the paranormal. Don’t miss this chilling conclusion to our season!

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One night, a weary traveler found himself lost in one of South Carolina’s dense forests.

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Hungry and in need of shelter, he caught the faint aroma of cooking in the air

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and spotted a quaint cabin nestled among the trees.

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He watched with relief as the door opened, revealing a lovely young woman.

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Her face was kind, and seeing he was in need, she offered him a deal.

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A hearty meal and a good night’s sleep in exchange for some work around the house.

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Feeling the emptiness in his stomach, the man quickly agreed.

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The feast was tasty and warm, and he’d hardly known a better night’s sleep.

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So comfortable was he that the next day, when it came time to continue his journey,

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he decided to stay on as a handyman.

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Days turned into weeks and weeks into months.

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And eventually, the two entered into a comfortable common-law marriage.

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The arrangement was easy and agreeable for the pair. That is,

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until one night, when the man awoke to discover his wife had vanished from their bed.

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Perhaps she’s not well, he thought, before closing his eyes once again.

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The next morning he inquired as to her health.

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Had she been ill the night before?

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What do you mean? she bristled. I slept like a baby, but the man was clever,

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and he sensed something was amiss.

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He decided to stay awake that night to see if the strange behavior continued.

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As he lay still, he heard his wife rise and whisper something strange.

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Turn and spin. Come off, skin.

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With his eyes still closed, the man heard a peculiar shuffling sound.

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He waited, heart pounding, as the woman scurried out of the cabin.

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When he was certain she had left, he opened his eyes to find his worst fears confirmed.

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There, under the bed, lay the empty skin of his wife, peeled away like a corn husk.

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This woman wasn’t a human, but a boo hag, an undead creature of the darkest magic.

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He’d heard tell of these creatures, and he knew they could only survive by stealing energy from the living.

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He also knew that if he wanted to get rid of it, he’d have to work quickly.

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He gathered up the boo hag’s skin and moved to the kitchen, where he pulled

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the salt and spicy red pepper off the shelf.

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With careful hands, the man sprinkled the salt and red pepper over the empty

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skin, making sure it covered every nook and fold.

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Then he returned the flesh to where he’d found it and crawled beneath the covers,

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feigning sleep until the creature came back.

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As dawn approached, he heard the door creak open.

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I done had me some fun.

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My work’s done, so skin, let me in. He heard the Boo Hag chuckle.

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There was silence for a moment as the Boo Hag stepped back into its fleshly disguise.

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Skin, let me in!

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To the creature’s surprise, it seemed that this time the skin wouldn’t fit.

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The salt had shrunken and hardened it into a leathery mess.

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The man listened quietly as the being howled, Skinny!

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Skinny! Don’t you know me? The red pepper burned her flesh.

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This skin was now a torturous prison. Finally, there was a long,

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painful groan, followed by a heavy thump.

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The boo-hack was dead. As the first light of dawn crept through the window,

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the man turned to see the remnants of his wife. life.

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Nothing but salt and tiny bits of dried, shredded leather.

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He wasted no time in gathering his belongings and leaving that haunted cabin

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without so much as a glance behind him.

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It was a lesson he wouldn’t soon forget.

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Not everything is as it seems.

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Welcome back, guys, to our final episode of the season.

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This is it.

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And what a creepy, freaking story to round the season out. The Boo Hag, no thank you. Yeah.

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It’s technically an urban legend, which urban legends, to me,

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that’s American folklore.

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We’ve taken all of these things, melted them together, and now we have our own

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kind of culture, contrary to what people say.

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Because I had to look up the actual definition of what an urban legend is supposed

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to be. And it’s either it’s either going to scare you or it’s going to teach you something.

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So that made me think of fairy tales, right? Because fairy tales started out

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super dark and they were always to warn typically women to like not do something

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or not behave a certain way.

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And I think our urban legends were like that.

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This connects so much with Charleston, though. Anyway, just bring it full circle,

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which is why I love that we’re doing it as our finale, because there’s so much

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of this Charleston talk that we’ve had in these past episodes that we can’t confirm.

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Right. So this is all really urban legend, you know, that we’re basing this on.

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And my experience being down in Charleston, I know we’ve heard about Dale’s ghost horror.

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Mine was a little more traumatic and it stemmed from learning about the Gullah Geechee culture.

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When you picture Charleston, you know, and I’m sure we’ve posted maps and things

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like that to kind of give you the visual.

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But the Gullah people spread from about Cape Fear, North Carolina,

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which was very close to the original Charlestown, all the way down to Jacksonville, Florida.

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And it was because we had that slave trade going on.

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Right.

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So this this Gullah culture kind of came from and was established by these enslaved

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Africans who typically came from Central or West Africa.

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And they developed this Creole culture which preserved their linguistics,

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their their overarching culture in general, their heritage and culture.

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I think that’s an amazing thing to do. They kind of brought in Christianity

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and Islam and then created their own, you know, style of worship.

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Let’s call it that, style of worship. This culture, I’ve, you know,

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I automatically think like voodoo, which, again, makes me think of New Orleans,

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which I always like connect the two.

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But they did believe in witchcraft. They did have what was called like root

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doctors and witch doctors, voodoo priests.

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There was an extremely famous one named Minerva, who…

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McGonagall?

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No.

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Minerva?

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She was apparently a character in the movie The Garden of Good and Evil.

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Ooh.

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Which, that’s an oldie but a goodie.

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That’s a great movie.

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And I’m going to have to revisit that one.

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Yeah.

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But it’s just so funny to me because when I read about it, how they called it

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voodoo, juju, voodoo, hoodoo, I think the labyrinth. I’m like, hoodoo, you do.

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I love the labyrinth. I know. I had to throw the reference out there.

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But they had their own superstitions, their own kind of way of warning people of things.

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So I’ve read that they used to put newspapers on their wall or a piece of newspaper

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in their shoe to ward off bad spirits because they would spend more time reading

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it and lose interest and then disappearing.

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That’s wild.

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And I’m just like, OK, so they do their amulets, they do their mojo thing.

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But really, they have this idea that people have both a spirit and a soul.

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OK, I thought that was very unique, you know, because I don’t feel like I remember

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that being a thing in Christianity. I don’t know about.

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No and we kind of touched on

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this in the last episode even though we were joking about it the outlander

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series which all of us are very into there are portions

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of the series when they are in the carolinas yes

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and they have what i’m assuming they based off the gala gala people and they

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stumble upon gala gichi gala gichi um i’m saying please forgive me my ignorance

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um But they stumble upon these ceremonies that they’re having on the beach.

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And at first it seems like, oh, this is going to be scary. But then,

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you know, they kind of give it a chance.

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And it’s like, wow, this is like, it’s really just a way to talk. Yeah.

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Speak to the spirits. It’s like one of those weird things because that’s so pop culture. Right.

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But very based on historical situations.

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But now I feel like hearing your story, I kind of have a visual.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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I love it. And I mean, just reading a little bit of their, like the foundation

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of their culture, I guess.

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So they believe they have both a spirit and a soul, right?

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Your soul would ascend to heaven or go down to hell, right? Depending on how your life was.

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With our girl Lavinia.

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Yes, definitely. But your spirit stays behind to help guide your descendants

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as part of this ancestor worship that kind of stems from Hoodoo.

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And I was like, that’s incredible.

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But they definitely believe in evil spirits. And the more I learned about this,

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the more I realized we probably saw things in Charleston and we didn’t even

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realize what we were looking at.

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Yeah.

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So…

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Fair.

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That leads us to one of their…

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It’s so hard for me to talk about one of their more terrifying stories or urban

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legends, which is called the Boo Hag.

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Which everyone kind of heard a little bit about in the story to start the episode. Yes.

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So hopefully you’ve got a nice little image in your head, but I’m going to help you visualize this.

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There are a few different variations to their Boo Hags, like there’s this traditional one.

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There’s one that’s called Mrs. Hag, which I personally love.

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But essentially, it could be this evil spirit.

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It could be almost in the realm of a female vampire-like creature.

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People have said it even looks witch-like or demon-like.

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But essentially, all of them peel off their skin.

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and this is always at night they peel off their skin and they’re basically looking

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for a human skin bag to kind of jump into,

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but where they vary from vampires they don’t suck out your blood they’re actually

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sucking out your spirit so a warning sign has been if you wake up and you feel

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exhausted but you’ve gotten a full night’s sleep that they say you could have

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been visited by a boo hag at night Right.

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So they don’t kill you. They just take your soul.

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Apparently. I mean, I guess they could kill you.

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Right. Yeah.

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I apparently escaped within an inch of my life and I didn’t even realize it.

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But when they’re talking about this, this witchcraft and this evil magic,

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right, it’s to cause this havoc like amongst innocent people.

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And they connect the boo hag with sleep paralysis. Right.

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Which I have horrendously.

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Horrendously and like you said in the last episode the like explain

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it away yeah yes what an easy way like we

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could we could blame science on that but there’s this like

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i said i’m gonna give you the picture it’s called the nightmare and i

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love that and it’s a creepy freaking picture but i kind of want

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it but it it’s the one that i showed you before that oh it’s this little demon

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looking things sitting on top of a white woman who’s kind of like sprawled out

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in white sleeping And it was originally painted in 1781 by this Swiss artist named Henry Fusilli and,

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they called it an incubus that’s on top of yes and.

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I actually knew this story because i’m a huge incubus fan the band.

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Uh yes which.

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They they talk about how when they found this the name for the band it was based off the spirit.

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Yeah that’s why which i don’t like because i was like does that mean you’re

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evil no they’re so good have you.

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Seen how beautiful brendan boyd is come.

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On yes i used to have like a full wall poster of them in my college same but

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i digress so anyway but that That picture really kind of helps put this into

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perspective because the boo hag is said to come to you at night and,

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you know, quote unquote,

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ride you, like sit on you and suck the air from your lungs as you sleep.

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So, OK, if you’re lucky, you wake up exhausted, they say. Right.

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But if you wake up during the encounter, that’s when it could possibly kill you.

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I’m going to dispute that point as I am here to tell the tale you.

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Are alive,

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I’m so excited for this I.

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Am not I get so creeped out that it’s going to happen again every time I tell it.

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We’re representing them well we’re talking.

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About them and.

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I do just want to say something that I had mentioned to Dina when she showed

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me the picture of this skinless creature I’m like why are they all veiny why

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do they look like something from the body museum and she was like,

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well, because they have no skin.

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Well, I was like, what does that smell like?

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So actually, I did find that because that could be a warning sign that one is close to you.

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So, you know, and that reminds me of your jail or dungeon story.

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Right?

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Because the air would become very hot and very damp. I was like,

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eh, I don’t really believe that. This is Charleston, South Carolina.

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It’s humid. We all know it, you know? But it says the air smells like something is rotting.

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Oh, okay.

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So there we go. So when your veins are outside of your body,

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And you have no skin. You smell like you’re rotting, apparently.

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That adds up. That adds up. Okay.

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So my ghost tour was at night, obviously. My tour, I should say, was at night.

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And I don’t really remember a lot of the places. This was definitely a few years ago.

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I do remember that we passed a haunted ATM at one point.

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Does it give you free money? Because I would love to visit it.

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Yes, I wish. But you know the things that you send the thing up to?

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Oh, yeah, yes.

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Like the thing would just go off. And it actually did go off a couple of times

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as we were walking by. And I was like, that could be staged. Right. Yeah.

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So anyway, our tour ends at the gates to the Unitarian Church where I hear the

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story for the first time that this could be where Annabelle Lee was buried. Right.

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And she could have stopped there. That was the end of the tour.

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OK. But now Dina has to ask questions and find out more information.

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So then she decides to tell her own experience about the boo hag,

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which is the first time I’ve ever even heard of this. I thought she was completely

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joking because the way you get rid of them is a little bit ridiculous.

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It’s very outlandish. So if you need a cure to get rid of a boo hag.

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We probably will after this episode. So please tell us. Yeah.

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She told me that one of the ways to get rid of them was with a straw broom or

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anything with bristles because they get distracted by counting.

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They have to count all the bristles and then eventually the sun comes up and

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then they’re destroyed. sounds ridiculous right so they.

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Can only come out at night.

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Correct and.

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They have a little touch of ocd maybe a little adhd like me they got a spicy brain.

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So they just have to count things yeah okay and i’m just

00:15:54.390 –> 00:15:57.230
like okay that’s that seems ridiculous like that’s obviously

00:15:57.230 –> 00:16:00.530
made up right i’m totally skeptical at this point and

00:16:00.530 –> 00:16:03.330
i go home which was not home it was an

00:16:03.330 –> 00:16:06.410
airbnb you know my friends and i were there for the weekend and i couldn’t sleep

00:16:06.410 –> 00:16:11.070
like i just was like no i’m I’m like something is popping out like I can’t and

00:16:11.070 –> 00:16:15.490
my friend who I was sharing the room with had already driven back home So I

00:16:15.490 –> 00:16:20.850
was by myself and I was terrified and I’m only saying that because I got very little sleep Okay,

00:16:20.910 –> 00:16:25.570
the next day we had about a three-hour drive back home and I wind up falling asleep on my couch,

00:16:26.130 –> 00:16:29.350
Alright makes perfect sense right because I was exhausted.

00:16:29.470 –> 00:16:33.890
I’ve been all night Well while I’m sleeping I wake up.

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But I cannot open my eyes, okay? And I knew I was awake. I 100% knew I was awake.

00:16:40.742 –> 00:16:43.382
And I tried to move. I thought maybe I could like rub my eyes.

00:16:43.482 –> 00:16:45.942
Nope, couldn’t move whatsoever.

00:16:46.622 –> 00:16:51.142
Now I get it, sleep paralysis. I have never had sleep paralysis in my entire life.

00:16:51.382 –> 00:16:57.222
I’m like struggling and like fighting to open up my eyelids when all of a sudden

00:16:57.222 –> 00:17:03.842
I feel a hand on my chest pressed, push me into the couch,

00:17:04.042 –> 00:17:07.082
like push me down into the couch.

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And I will never forget the feeling because I was like, what on earth is touching me right now?

00:17:13.342 –> 00:17:20.602
And so I started like fighting to wake up, wake myself up, thinking that I must

00:17:20.602 –> 00:17:23.502
have still been in a dream to move my arms, to move my legs,

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to get up off of this couch.

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And eventually it worked. And I flew off the couch,

00:17:28.962 –> 00:17:34.942
ouch hysterically crying like what the hell was that now they usually say dogs

00:17:34.942 –> 00:17:38.462
can sense evil and i have a dog and she literally was just like chilling on

00:17:38.462 –> 00:17:41.222
her bed the entire time watching whatever which is wild because.

00:17:41.222 –> 00:17:45.382
Coco barks i mean i don’t know maybe the boo had gave her a treat.

00:17:46.222 –> 00:17:49.002
Possibly so i i am skeptical that way but i am

00:17:49.002 –> 00:17:51.782
telling you i know what i felt and i did not

00:17:51.782 –> 00:17:54.722
see see anything but it is an

00:17:54.722 –> 00:17:57.882
you you know what that feeling feels

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like when there is a hand on you yeah yeah and

00:18:01.142 –> 00:18:03.862
thankfully one of the girls that I went on a trip with

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is married to a minister so I call her hysterically I’m like you both need to

00:18:10.102 –> 00:18:15.562
get over here right now okay while I’m waiting for them to come over to now

00:18:15.562 –> 00:18:23.282
exercise my house because I’m convinced it’s there I call the tour company stop hold on.

00:18:23.282 –> 00:18:30.422
Hold on just trying to have a visual here you’re the tour company here’s a hysterical

00:18:30.422 –> 00:18:31.922
girl what time of the day is this.

00:18:31.922 –> 00:18:35.642
Oh it’s middle of the afternoon that is incredible i was just glad somebody

00:18:35.642 –> 00:18:41.482
picked up and i am sobbing like i don’t remember what my tour guy’s name was

00:18:41.482 –> 00:18:44.442
but she told us the story and i swear to god it’s happening and i don’t know

00:18:44.442 –> 00:18:48.182
what i’m supposed to do right now and she goes well i guess one followed you

00:18:48.182 –> 00:18:51.242
home i’m sorry I was like, that is not helpful.

00:18:51.722 –> 00:18:55.382
Yeah. And so she was just like, well, Google it, essentially.

00:18:55.502 –> 00:18:59.942
You know, like what you could do to get rid of it. So anyway, that was not helpful.

00:19:00.222 –> 00:19:04.182
A friend comes over with her husband and he goes from room to room and he blesses

00:19:04.182 –> 00:19:06.682
the rooms and stuff. Yeah, I didn’t sleep for two days.

00:19:07.062 –> 00:19:11.482
When I say I grabbed every hairbrush, dustpan, broom.

00:19:11.502 –> 00:19:13.142
Any form of brush, broom.

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Yeah, sweeping.

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18 toothbrushes on the floor.

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Just around your whole bed.

00:19:18.702 –> 00:19:25.602
My bed, my couch, Coco’s toothbrush, anything that I could put anything with

00:19:25.602 –> 00:19:27.842
bristles underneath, it was there.

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And I will say nothing ever did wind up happening again.

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It was the most terrifying experience. And as somebody who enjoys the spooky,

00:19:36.037 –> 00:19:38.997
creepy things, I’ve always wanted to have an encounter.

00:19:39.197 –> 00:19:42.117
You know, like everything you were saying last week, I keep picturing these

00:19:42.117 –> 00:19:43.197
dungeons. I’m like, I want to go.

00:19:43.397 –> 00:19:46.517
Yeah. Then I think back to that moment and I was like, that was not fun.

00:19:46.657 –> 00:19:46.857
Yeah.

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That was not fun.

00:19:50.037 –> 00:19:50.617
Understandably so.

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Yeah. Okay.

00:19:52.677 –> 00:19:53.037
Okay.

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Got to cool down a little bit.

00:19:54.737 –> 00:19:59.937
Okay. So kind of this kind of leads us into like, first of all, I.

00:19:59.937 –> 00:20:03.757
Could tell you, you know, of ways to prevent it too well.

00:20:03.757 –> 00:20:05.237
Go ahead i.

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Mean because we think we’ve passed that stage but yeah go ahead but i mean isn’t

00:20:10.617 –> 00:20:14.317
that the the point of like the urban legend right you hear this story it’s terrifying

00:20:14.317 –> 00:20:20.817
you try and figure out a way to avoid that from happening to you right thus enter the haint paint oh.

00:20:20.817 –> 00:20:21.377
Yes yes yes.

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I was like we can’t we can’t skip that so haint h-a-i-n-t is a specific color

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of blue, like an indigo blue, that people…

00:20:31.417 –> 00:20:31.717
Indigo?

00:20:31.917 –> 00:20:36.377
Exactly. You said that last time, you know, that they saw that color, right? In the pit?

00:20:36.557 –> 00:20:37.697
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Apparently, it’s to ward off evil spirits.

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Interesting.

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So there are porches and different things throughout Charleston that are painted

00:20:47.877 –> 00:20:50.717
this color blue to keep the evil spirits away.

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I think it was our second episode. Didn’t we talk about one of the buildings?

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The second half of the building was painted in the paint because they were like,

00:20:58.637 –> 00:21:00.657
you know, it’s painted in the blue color.

00:21:00.737 –> 00:21:03.217
And it was the top half. And that was the most haunted.

00:21:03.677 –> 00:21:07.977
Of course. Of course. That would make sense.

00:21:08.277 –> 00:21:12.257
I guess I didn’t see this personally, but it’s beautiful to look at.

00:21:12.297 –> 00:21:14.237
They’ve also created what’s called bottle trees.

00:21:14.577 –> 00:21:20.837
So they put these actual glass bottles that are dyed blue all over different

00:21:20.837 –> 00:21:24.957
trees, sticks, branches, things like that. and it looks really cute in a garden

00:21:24.957 –> 00:21:28.517
but again, it’s supposed to keep these ghosts and evil spirits away.

00:21:28.737 –> 00:21:30.277
That specific color.

00:21:30.437 –> 00:21:35.337
I think that when I go back to Charleston everything in my suitcase will be that color.

00:21:35.517 –> 00:21:37.557
Yep. And maybe like wear a necklace.

00:21:37.557 –> 00:21:40.337
Wait, hold on. Dina’s going to paint herself like the Blue Man Group?

00:21:55.926 –> 00:22:02.246
The story of the Gullah people, when you’re telling it, like something I think

00:22:02.246 –> 00:22:04.186
is so beautiful about that.

00:22:04.266 –> 00:22:09.006
And this is, you know, maybe a tough topic, but my my grandmother who’s passed,

00:22:09.186 –> 00:22:15.366
she practiced Santeria, which is, you know, very similar to this and truly believed

00:22:15.366 –> 00:22:18.466
in evil spirits and had her own ways of warding them off.

00:22:18.606 –> 00:22:22.246
And there is something to be said in the beauty of it, because there is like,

00:22:22.326 –> 00:22:25.426
you know, just in the research we’ve done for this and the stuff I’ve read.

00:22:25.426 –> 00:22:28.446
they really were robbed of their culture

00:22:28.446 –> 00:22:31.506
during slave trade and they did such a wonderful job

00:22:31.506 –> 00:22:34.786
of trying to preserve it yeah and it has bled you

00:22:34.786 –> 00:22:37.726
know like like we always do our society

00:22:37.726 –> 00:22:40.406
has stolen things from their culture to try and make it

00:22:40.406 –> 00:22:43.266
our own yeah but stories like this about the like

00:22:43.266 –> 00:22:46.626
i love learning these things because

00:22:46.626 –> 00:22:49.646
you know we just kind of whitewash these stories

00:22:49.646 –> 00:22:52.526
in history yeah and these stories

00:22:52.526 –> 00:22:55.366
are not like they they brought these stories

00:22:55.366 –> 00:23:00.166
with them and their cultures are thousands and thousands and thousands of years

00:23:00.166 –> 00:23:05.206
older than ours and i kind of like trust them way more than oh sure yeah you

00:23:05.206 –> 00:23:09.626
know what i mean 100 percent yeah their stuff is rooted in actual experience

00:23:09.626 –> 00:23:14.046
where ours is rooted in 15 different layers stories yeah.

00:23:14.046 –> 00:23:18.306
And that’s why i’m I’m also glad I didn’t read all of this before,

00:23:18.366 –> 00:23:22.566
like knowing that because they say if you fight, the boo hag might steal your skin.

00:23:22.606 –> 00:23:24.766
Very similar to our story that we heard.

00:23:24.966 –> 00:23:27.966
And I mean, I don’t know. I’m sure there’s something to it that,

00:23:27.966 –> 00:23:31.666
you know, it’s a female hag, women, witches.

00:23:31.906 –> 00:23:35.106
Yeah. You know, I do think there might be more to it than that.

00:23:35.186 –> 00:23:41.766
I haven’t dug that deep, but I think it’s a I don’t know what it’s supposed to warn you of.

00:23:41.846 –> 00:23:44.746
Well, I also I don’t know. I think there’s like something to be said.

00:23:44.746 –> 00:23:49.026
I know you’re going to kind of jump into some more of like the stories from

00:23:49.026 –> 00:23:51.286
that culture and kind of stemming from that.

00:23:51.346 –> 00:23:55.966
But there’s something to be said about these stories have stood the test of time.

00:23:56.026 –> 00:23:59.566
They’re still telling these stories because these experiences are still happening.

00:23:59.726 –> 00:24:03.346
Yeah. Do you want to tell your your other creepy story?

00:24:03.386 –> 00:24:05.366
I mean, I can. I can jump right in. OK.

00:24:05.606 –> 00:24:07.906
This one’s kind of my favorite.

00:24:07.906 –> 00:24:14.526
In 1867 in Charleston, the owner of a new apothecary found himself on the wrong

00:24:14.526 –> 00:24:17.266
end of a rioting group of over 500 people.

00:24:17.506 –> 00:24:22.726
So the apothecary was opened up in a building called the John Lining House,

00:24:22.906 –> 00:24:25.906
which was a historic home built in the late 1700s.

00:24:26.666 –> 00:24:27.926
Is it one of the oldest buildings?

00:24:28.206 –> 00:24:28.946
Probably was.

00:24:29.206 –> 00:24:30.386
Is it the most haunted building?

00:24:30.666 –> 00:24:34.386
It might be. It doesn’t actually, you know what’s funny is this one doesn’t

00:24:34.386 –> 00:24:37.446
say that. It does not say that. So, I mean, maybe they just didn’t have enough

00:24:37.446 –> 00:24:38.466
people talking about it.

00:24:38.486 –> 00:24:43.126
But this building originally was owned by a doctor named John Lining,

00:24:43.206 –> 00:24:47.026
and he gave the house to his wife as a gift.

00:24:47.386 –> 00:24:49.866
And so obviously time has gone by.

00:24:50.646 –> 00:24:55.186
The story that I’m going to talk about is a gentleman by the name of Dr.

00:24:55.506 –> 00:24:59.866
Trott, and he opens up an apothecary in this building.

00:25:00.146 –> 00:25:07.026
And so the original owners would rent out this space for a doctor to come in

00:25:07.026 –> 00:25:08.246
and run it as an apothecary.

00:25:08.386 –> 00:25:16.126
This doctor opened up his shop in 1867, so quite some time after it was built originally.

00:25:16.386 –> 00:25:16.666
For sure.

00:25:16.666 –> 00:25:21.066
And he wasn’t doing well. People weren’t coming. And he was like,

00:25:21.126 –> 00:25:23.606
what’s going on? I don’t have a single customer.

00:25:23.866 –> 00:25:25.926
Like, I don’t understand why no one’s coming.

00:25:26.686 –> 00:25:33.446
Finally, a customer comes in. He asks them like, hey, why is no one coming to my apothecary?

00:25:33.546 –> 00:25:37.006
Because obviously he’s probably one of the only ones in the area.

00:25:37.006 –> 00:25:40.286
the customer’s like oh yeah well all of

00:25:40.286 –> 00:25:48.346
the locals went to a gala root doctor they get all of their like all of their

00:25:48.346 –> 00:25:51.886
medicines and everything from her so they they don’t need to come to the apothecary

00:25:51.886 –> 00:25:57.566
he’s like what the heck why are they going to a doctor it actually.

00:25:57.566 –> 00:25:58.766
Probably was a man the root.

00:25:58.766 –> 00:26:04.946
Doctors are typically men female really uh-huh so dr trot uh decided he needed

00:26:04.946 –> 00:26:09.166
to do something to really like bring in the crowd, because obviously he wasn’t

00:26:09.166 –> 00:26:12.486
going to get any customers if there wasn’t a reason for them to come.

00:26:12.606 –> 00:26:16.606
And he felt like he needed something that was spectacular to get them to come

00:26:16.606 –> 00:26:20.106
in. So he immediately thought of, oh, also Dr.

00:26:20.286 –> 00:26:24.886
Trott is originally from New York. So if you can assume where this might be

00:26:24.886 –> 00:26:28.306
going, he immediately thought of the infamous P.T.

00:26:28.406 –> 00:26:37.266
Barnum, the creator of the first modern circus, and the Fiji Mermaid.

00:26:37.586 –> 00:26:41.426
The Fiji Mermaid, though, however, if you don’t know the story,

00:26:41.686 –> 00:26:47.046
people were extremely disgusted by this mermaid because the mermaid was the

00:26:47.046 –> 00:26:51.646
ugliest thing people had ever seen to the point of riots outside of the museum

00:26:51.646 –> 00:26:59.566
because the mermaid was a shriveled body of a monkey sewn onto a fish’s body. That is so disgusting.

00:26:59.866 –> 00:27:03.466
Not Ariel. Yeah. Not, you know, not the pretty mermaid. I mean,

00:27:03.486 –> 00:27:04.946
at that time, there was no Ariel yet.

00:27:04.966 –> 00:27:06.926
Not John Cena in the Barbie movie?

00:27:07.146 –> 00:27:07.286
Yeah.

00:27:07.346 –> 00:27:07.966
Oh my God.

00:27:07.966 –> 00:27:11.306
That would be terrible. But of course, Dr. Trott’s like, that’s okay.

00:27:11.526 –> 00:27:15.826
We’re going to close the shop down. I’m going to make my own mermaid.

00:27:16.414 –> 00:27:17.474
So he closes his little shop down.

00:27:17.474 –> 00:27:18.554
Seems like a very bad idea.

00:27:18.574 –> 00:27:19.794
I was literally just thinking that.

00:27:19.874 –> 00:27:22.214
But here’s the thing, is he posted

00:27:22.214 –> 00:27:27.574
a sign that said free magic show with a countdown that read four days.

00:27:27.854 –> 00:27:33.654
So of course, curiosity began to build in the community because people were

00:27:33.654 –> 00:27:36.474
like, what’s a magic show? That’s so exciting.

00:27:36.714 –> 00:27:44.074
So he gets really excited over this and he goes around collecting glass aquariums

00:27:44.074 –> 00:27:48.134
and filled them with sand, seashells, seahorses, plants, and other fishes and creatures.

00:27:48.394 –> 00:27:52.754
He spent days catching and collecting all these plants and animals to fill his tanks.

00:27:53.054 –> 00:27:55.994
And people were going to be very impressed.

00:27:56.314 –> 00:28:01.834
And like clearly, aquariums in a coastal town is not like a new thing.

00:28:02.054 –> 00:28:05.374
Yeah, that’s like a pigeon in New York.

00:28:05.634 –> 00:28:12.354
Exactly. But he saved the best thing for last. He ushered people in to check

00:28:12.354 –> 00:28:14.194
out a tank that was covered in a black cloth.

00:28:14.474 –> 00:28:20.254
It was dimly lit and he would only pull back the cover for a few seconds and

00:28:20.254 –> 00:28:23.454
people would see a tank filled with a large fish and murky water.

00:28:23.574 –> 00:28:26.934
But someone called out that he could see the mermaid.

00:28:27.394 –> 00:28:31.014
People were very excited. However, the tail.

00:28:31.194 –> 00:28:35.734
So there was like a tail hidden amongst the plants and people scrambled closer

00:28:35.734 –> 00:28:40.154
for a better look. However, Trott threw the cover back over the tank and told

00:28:40.154 –> 00:28:43.934
them you had to, you know, other people were waiting. So you had enough time. You have to go.

00:28:44.074 –> 00:28:47.274
And people spent money to see the mermaid.

00:28:47.774 –> 00:28:51.254
In his mind, it was a harmless gimmick. It was getting people in the door.

00:28:51.354 –> 00:28:57.234
He didn’t think anything of it. However, the root doctor heard people explaining

00:28:57.234 –> 00:29:02.054
that they had seen a mermaid in a tank. And she went to see.

00:29:02.194 –> 00:29:02.954
She called bullshit.

00:29:03.134 –> 00:29:06.294
She went to see said mermaid. When she went to see the mermaid,

00:29:06.534 –> 00:29:10.294
Dr. Trott was like, oh man, something terrible happened.

00:29:11.211 –> 00:29:15.171
The mermaid’s gone. I don’t know. She’s not in the tank anymore.

00:29:15.331 –> 00:29:16.471
And I don’t know what happened.

00:29:17.011 –> 00:29:23.851
Well, the root doctor was like, mm-hmm. A few days later, in June of 1867,

00:29:24.051 –> 00:29:27.151
a terrible storm came to Charleston.

00:29:27.251 –> 00:29:30.051
And it rained for four days and four nights, flooding the city,

00:29:30.151 –> 00:29:33.331
the homes, the people. It was the worst rain in 50 years.

00:29:33.371 –> 00:29:35.591
Like the mecca of all of Mother Nature again.

00:29:35.951 –> 00:29:38.851
And it was a Category 1 hurricane. cane.

00:29:39.051 –> 00:29:46.311
The whole history of mermaids, this is like a huge part of this story as well.

00:29:46.471 –> 00:29:54.671
So mermaids were nature spirits to the African slaves and the belief from like their lives in Africa.

00:29:54.911 –> 00:30:00.351
And so an angry mermaid could cause shipwreck storms and other watery disasters.

00:30:00.851 –> 00:30:05.811
They were afraid. So the the community of people were afraid that this is what

00:30:05.811 –> 00:30:08.551
happened so basically way to go dr trot,

00:30:09.331 –> 00:30:15.231
made real nice story but these people believed in mermaids so much so that when

00:30:15.231 –> 00:30:20.251
it started to pour they were like dude it is this doctor’s fault we need to

00:30:20.251 –> 00:30:22.731
go tell him so they march into his,

00:30:23.751 –> 00:30:29.911
apothecary did they bring pitchforks and no not yet so they basically kill the

00:30:29.911 –> 00:30:32.971
beast So they go in and they’re like,

00:30:32.971 –> 00:30:37.691
they were like actually afraid because if they don’t get this mermaid released

00:30:37.691 –> 00:30:40.411
back into the water, this rain will not stop.

00:30:40.691 –> 00:30:43.771
And so they go, they tell him and he’s just like.

00:30:45.073 –> 00:30:48.413
OK, but I don’t have the mermaid. And they’re like, well, we don’t believe you.

00:30:49.133 –> 00:30:51.053
How screwed is he? Exactly.

00:30:51.373 –> 00:30:54.573
Well, even crazier. So they are like, yeah, you’re lying.

00:30:54.833 –> 00:31:00.733
We saw the mermaid. So they go to the community leaders and speak to the city

00:31:00.733 –> 00:31:08.013
council and Trott is served official paperwork stating that he has to release

00:31:08.013 –> 00:31:12.073
the mermaid or he’ll be fined and also thrown in jail.

00:31:12.073 –> 00:31:15.233
I hope it was the old Charleston jail.

00:31:15.373 –> 00:31:19.213
Yeah, it probably would be. Of course, that doesn’t happen because he doesn’t

00:31:19.213 –> 00:31:21.413
have a mermaid because he made the whole thing up.

00:31:21.653 –> 00:31:25.553
So people are like, yeah, he’s a jerk. We don’t believe him. He’s got this mermaid.

00:31:25.713 –> 00:31:30.413
And a little boy was killed going after his dog.

00:31:30.673 –> 00:31:36.993
And so because it was flooding so much, they were like, someone just died now.

00:31:37.633 –> 00:31:44.913
So like you have to give up this mermaid. A crowd of 500 gullas come to protest

00:31:44.913 –> 00:31:49.373
the shop and especially because the rain was not stopping.

00:31:51.773 –> 00:31:57.913
They demanded that the mermaid be returned to the ocean so that her watery wrath would end.

00:31:58.233 –> 00:32:03.453
And then to add insult to injury, the root doctor was like, also,

00:32:03.573 –> 00:32:10.533
the mermaid had left her only child in the beach’s inlets. and it’s crying was causing the storm.

00:32:10.653 –> 00:32:15.953
So the mother needed to go back to save the baby so that she would stop crying.

00:32:16.093 –> 00:32:19.953
So the crowd totally fed up. Dr. Trott not releasing the mermaid.

00:32:20.173 –> 00:32:22.033
So they stormed the apothecary.

00:32:22.953 –> 00:32:29.873
They like trashed the whole place. And then Trott comes out and explains the entire thing was a hoax.

00:32:30.033 –> 00:32:34.413
He never had a mermaid to set free because she never existed.

00:32:34.413 –> 00:32:39.753
did and that it was only fueled on speculation and all this other stuff.

00:32:39.893 –> 00:32:41.253
And they were like, yeah, no, you’re lying.

00:32:41.733 –> 00:32:43.773
You’re lying. Like you have her.

00:32:43.933 –> 00:32:44.953
Boy, who cried wolf, man.

00:32:45.193 –> 00:32:46.013
So they.

00:32:46.173 –> 00:32:47.233
Another urban legend.

00:32:47.373 –> 00:32:51.093
Well, and so he’s like, you can search my whole space. Well,

00:32:51.113 –> 00:32:52.253
obviously they are trashed it.

00:32:52.373 –> 00:32:56.733
So like they’re like, yes, she’s not in there. So they go in and they’re like

00:32:56.733 –> 00:32:57.653
looking around the store.

00:32:58.133 –> 00:33:01.653
All of the glass tanks and stuff had been destroyed.

00:33:01.653 –> 00:33:06.933
and the plants on the inside of the aquariums were floating in the rainwater

00:33:06.933 –> 00:33:12.333
and they floated out of the shop, a man claimed that he saw the mermaid swimming

00:33:12.333 –> 00:33:15.233
out away from the apothecary and back out to sea.

00:33:15.413 –> 00:33:17.673
And so they think that

00:33:18.088 –> 00:33:22.048
By the whole place being trashed, that the mermaid was trapped in one of those

00:33:22.048 –> 00:33:27.268
aquariums. And when that happened, she was able to swim back to sea. And the rain stopped.

00:33:27.268 –> 00:33:28.008
Minutes later.

00:33:28.648 –> 00:33:31.628
The rain stopped. And the storm finally ended.

00:33:32.088 –> 00:33:36.748
That is the story of the mermaid and the apothecary.

00:33:36.968 –> 00:33:42.588
But, like, how stupid do you have to, like, come on?

00:33:43.168 –> 00:33:45.168
I love it. It’s great.

00:33:45.308 –> 00:33:45.968
It’s a great story.

00:33:45.968 –> 00:33:50.808
My mom used to read that to me because it teaches you not to lie.

00:33:50.968 –> 00:33:54.768
And ever since I read that story, because there was a wolf in it,

00:33:54.848 –> 00:33:58.568
and wolves always terrified me as a child, especially big black ones with big long claws.

00:33:58.888 –> 00:34:02.868
I don’t feel like to this day I can lie because it’s terrifying to me.

00:34:03.108 –> 00:34:06.288
Well, that’s definitely one of those stories that he got what he deserved.

00:34:06.628 –> 00:34:09.548
You took something from their culture that’s so sacred to them,

00:34:09.628 –> 00:34:12.268
tried to turn it into a money-grabbing thing.

00:34:12.688 –> 00:34:17.048
Good for them! Yeah. You stole a giant piece of who they are in their culture,

00:34:17.188 –> 00:34:21.268
something that they were clinging to because it was robbed from them to make a dollar.

00:34:21.368 –> 00:34:21.848
It was wild.

00:34:21.908 –> 00:34:25.488
Because you were pissed that the root doctor is getting all of your business

00:34:25.488 –> 00:34:29.268
when the root doctor is probably doing this crap for free because they’re doing

00:34:29.268 –> 00:34:31.008
it. That’s their calling. That’s what they do.

00:34:31.228 –> 00:34:31.608
Exactly.

00:34:31.828 –> 00:34:36.908
He had already, or she, the root doctor had already established their home there too.

00:34:37.028 –> 00:34:37.248
Right.

00:34:37.288 –> 00:34:41.128
Absolutely. Was cheaper than the apothecary. And like you said,

00:34:41.148 –> 00:34:45.608
he came from New York. So that’s not your area. Like, you got to build your clientele, bro.

00:34:45.828 –> 00:34:46.308
Exactly.

00:34:46.568 –> 00:34:46.948
Exactly.

00:34:46.968 –> 00:34:49.148
You can’t steal other people’s.

00:34:49.608 –> 00:34:53.848
I would never go up against a root doctor. I just think you’re like asking for it.

00:34:53.868 –> 00:34:59.348
And you deserve it. But can we just talk about the fact that there was 500 people that went outside?

00:34:59.708 –> 00:35:03.668
Like, I’m assuming this is not a massive building, right?

00:35:03.688 –> 00:35:08.588
Can you imagine 500 people on those streets in Charleston that are itty bitty

00:35:08.588 –> 00:35:11.908
just to get this mermaid release?

00:35:11.908 –> 00:35:15.288
Least because it’s so important to them to make sure that something that they

00:35:15.288 –> 00:35:18.928
believe in so heartedly from their culture is released where it should be like

00:35:18.928 –> 00:35:22.028
you’re not going to contain this thing and i also love that they called it the

00:35:22.028 –> 00:35:25.868
mermaid riots yeah that was so funny i saw it my research yeah.

00:35:25.868 –> 00:35:32.328
When they ran it in the newspapers it was referred to the mermaid riots even though there was no.

00:35:32.328 –> 00:35:36.288
Actual riot they just wanted to free the freaking mermaid yeah when i think

00:35:36.288 –> 00:35:40.148
about stories like that like that is another i mean like it kind of brings us

00:35:40.148 –> 00:35:44.468
back to the boo hag story And I mean, these are amazing urban legends.

00:35:44.688 –> 00:35:50.388
Also, this is like a little note from the story, which I just read and I need to read now.

00:35:50.508 –> 00:35:56.248
It says that the Gola people were going to do everything to save the captured

00:35:56.248 –> 00:36:01.368
mermaid because just two years earlier is when they had been freed from slavery.

00:36:01.708 –> 00:36:06.668
And so it would make sense that these people are like, of course,

00:36:06.668 –> 00:36:11.688
we will do everything we possibly can to free this mermaid. made. That’s beautiful.

00:36:11.948 –> 00:36:12.388
That’s beautiful.

00:36:26.556 –> 00:36:31.616
So I’m going to start with the gray man, which is oddly enough, that’s more of a story.

00:36:31.696 –> 00:36:34.776
The young man in this story, he came from Charleston.

00:36:35.316 –> 00:36:40.276
So this story is the ghost of a young man. He’s traveling from Charleston to see his fiance in 1822.

00:36:40.796 –> 00:36:44.816
On his way, he and his horse were caught in quicksand. It was right before a

00:36:44.816 –> 00:36:48.596
Pauley’s Island. So kind of after Charleston, right? And he died.

00:36:48.936 –> 00:36:52.136
And so his spirits kind of haunted the shore ever since then.

00:36:52.356 –> 00:36:55.956
You know, it’s looking for the girl he loved, which we know is a common theme in all these stories.

00:36:56.876 –> 00:37:02.896
But it became a printed book in Julian Stevenson Bollick’s book,

00:37:03.016 –> 00:37:04.816
Waccamaw Plantations in 1946.

00:37:04.956 –> 00:37:08.736
And then eventually in another book in 1956 of ghost stories,

00:37:08.836 –> 00:37:13.556
but it’s gotten so much more national attention in the last like 30 years because

00:37:13.556 –> 00:37:17.796
during Hurricane Hugo, there was a couple, Jim and Clara Moore.

00:37:18.036 –> 00:37:22.476
They were interviewed for one of all of our favorite shows, Unsolved Mysteries.

00:37:22.476 –> 00:37:27.436
They told their story about seeing a man on the beach, the same look that they

00:37:27.436 –> 00:37:28.656
describe in the stories.

00:37:29.016 –> 00:37:33.756
He waved to them and they waved back to him. Their house was the only house

00:37:33.756 –> 00:37:35.396
that was spared in the hurricane.

00:37:35.496 –> 00:37:39.176
Every house around them was decimated. Their house was completely spared,

00:37:39.356 –> 00:37:40.956
which is the legend of the great man.

00:37:41.056 –> 00:37:45.356
So essentially, if you see this man on the beach and he waves to you or nods

00:37:45.356 –> 00:37:48.436
to you and you get some interaction with him, your house will be saved in the hurricanes.

00:37:48.436 –> 00:37:54.376
Well then in 2014, the Weather Channel, they devoted an entire episode to the

00:37:54.376 –> 00:37:56.976
story of the Gray Man. Because this isn’t the first time it happens.

00:37:57.236 –> 00:38:01.696
So apparently people that have encountered him, and there was like a bunch of

00:38:01.696 –> 00:38:02.976
people in the story. I watched the clip.

00:38:03.376 –> 00:38:08.676
They’ve either come ashore and seen, oh, my home is completely fine,

00:38:08.736 –> 00:38:11.476
my belongings are fine, but everything around them is decimated.

00:38:11.696 –> 00:38:14.836
I love that some people say he looked like a young man on a horse,

00:38:14.996 –> 00:38:17.016
and sometimes he’s on a horse, sometimes he’s just walking on the shore.

00:38:18.295 –> 00:38:21.075
You know, again, folklore. So we’re talking about urban legends.

00:38:21.915 –> 00:38:24.575
Eventually, he’s, you know, described as like a pirate.

00:38:24.655 –> 00:38:27.935
Maybe he’s a pirate that came ashore and now he’s protecting people because

00:38:27.935 –> 00:38:29.855
he was a nice pirate. Whatever it may be.

00:38:30.215 –> 00:38:37.215
But I just like the idea of like a, you know, kind of going back to the Gullah legends.

00:38:37.495 –> 00:38:40.355
I like the idea of a guy that’s just going to save your house from a hurricane

00:38:40.355 –> 00:38:42.095
if you’re nice to him. Just be nice to me.

00:38:42.135 –> 00:38:44.355
I just like that we’re talking about a friendly ghost.

00:38:44.515 –> 00:38:46.995
Me too. But I’m going to talk about now a sad story.

00:38:47.235 –> 00:38:47.615
Oh, great.

00:38:47.615 –> 00:38:51.835
So this is called The Story of the Ravenel Lights, which every single time I

00:38:51.835 –> 00:38:56.435
looked up urban legends in Charleston, this is like, for our area growing up,

00:38:56.435 –> 00:38:58.215
we had the legend of Sleepy Hollow, right?

00:38:58.375 –> 00:39:01.655
Everybody in New York, in the Hudson Valley where we grew up,

00:39:01.695 –> 00:39:04.535
you knew the story of the Headless Horseman, the legend of Sleepy Hollow.

00:39:04.715 –> 00:39:04.935
Yeah.

00:39:05.075 –> 00:39:10.135
This is kind of their story. So every kid, every young kid hears this story.

00:39:10.235 –> 00:39:12.175
It’s a spooky story you tell around the fire.

00:39:12.335 –> 00:39:15.435
And it’s a story of the Ravenel Lights. So this is about three teenage boys.

00:39:15.775 –> 00:39:19.695
There’s two kind of versions. One, they’re ran over by a logging truck and the

00:39:19.695 –> 00:39:23.255
other one, they’re hit by a train. Both not great.

00:39:23.415 –> 00:39:23.655
Wow.

00:39:24.015 –> 00:39:28.735
At 1230 in the morning, one of the kids that was walking along the tracks says,

00:39:28.835 –> 00:39:30.395
I see lights. There’s no train.

00:39:30.555 –> 00:39:33.255
They find these three bodies. In the other version of the story,

00:39:33.395 –> 00:39:37.275
the kids are walking up and down the street. They see three lights in the distance.

00:39:37.915 –> 00:39:42.055
They’re hit by the logging truck and they’re killed. But this is my favorite part.

00:39:42.195 –> 00:39:44.635
Do you guys ever have stories where that people would say like,

00:39:44.695 –> 00:39:48.215
oh, you go knock on this lady’s door. and the ghosts would come to your house.

00:39:48.215 –> 00:39:48.895
Sounds like Buckout Row.

00:39:49.075 –> 00:39:54.735
Yes, this is exactly like that. So if you go to the Baptist church that the

00:39:54.735 –> 00:39:57.335
three boys are buried behind, because we don’t know a lot about who these boys

00:39:57.335 –> 00:39:59.535
were, but if you go to the Baptist church doors,

00:39:59.755 –> 00:40:03.295
knock three times and you say, we want to see the lights and then you repeat

00:40:03.295 –> 00:40:04.615
the process three times,

00:40:05.495 –> 00:40:08.735
the lights of the logging truck will appear in front of you.

00:40:08.875 –> 00:40:09.515
No, thank you.

00:40:10.175 –> 00:40:14.075
This young teenage kid, he moves to Charleston. First thing he wants to do,

00:40:14.255 –> 00:40:17.275
probably earning some street cred, grabbed some of his new friends,

00:40:18.086 –> 00:40:23.486
And he goes to the church at 1130 p.m. and he does the whole knocking thing. Nothing happens.

00:40:23.806 –> 00:40:26.966
And then they all go back to the road to wait for lights. Still nothing happens.

00:40:27.146 –> 00:40:31.186
There’s already cars parked along the street and on the side road.

00:40:31.266 –> 00:40:34.406
So a couple of the kids were like leaning against the churchyard,

00:40:34.506 –> 00:40:36.046
like the cars outside the churchyard.

00:40:36.506 –> 00:40:42.206
So it’s now an hour later. It’s about 1230. He and his friends see the lights coming down the road.

00:40:42.266 –> 00:40:46.426
They don’t hear a car, but they see the lights coming down the road.

00:40:46.486 –> 00:40:49.326
And they’re already leaning against cars. so like okay it’s not any of

00:40:49.326 –> 00:40:52.266
these cars there’s no lights on and but they’re looking and

00:40:52.266 –> 00:40:55.546
so the one kid runs further down the road looks behind the lights

00:40:55.546 –> 00:40:58.846
are still coming towards him there’s no car but they see these lights coming

00:40:58.846 –> 00:41:03.906
towards them obviously they all freak out and what they think is the car the

00:41:03.906 –> 00:41:09.006
two headlights of the car it comes to be one light and then the one light zooms

00:41:09.006 –> 00:41:13.566
towards the kid that did the knocking on the door and it like hits him in the chest.

00:41:14.306 –> 00:41:17.606
This is my favorite part the kids run away oh

00:41:17.606 –> 00:41:20.706
they’re like we don’t know you yeah out bye we

00:41:20.706 –> 00:41:25.466
are out he looked around him again he almost wet his pants i just love that

00:41:25.466 –> 00:41:30.386
they had to put that into that and then he looks behind him the two lights are

00:41:30.386 –> 00:41:33.666
there again so they’re continuing down the road and then it looks like they’re

00:41:33.666 –> 00:41:36.686
not one light not two lights but three lights almost like three motorcycles

00:41:36.686 –> 00:41:40.306
are getting ready to race back at him and that’s where they end that story,

00:41:40.921 –> 00:41:44.421
one of the things that kept popping up when you type in the most

00:41:44.421 –> 00:41:47.321
ridiculous urban legends of charleston bigfoot oh yeah just

00:41:47.321 –> 00:41:51.621
so you know guys uh there has been 57 reported sightings

00:41:51.621 –> 00:41:56.861
of bigfoot around charleston south carolina that’s wild and they started in

00:41:56.861 –> 00:42:03.301
1964 and the most recent was in 2022 oh wow and this is hilarious because i

00:42:03.301 –> 00:42:09.941
found a couple different stories and one of my favorites is the first guy that saw it, you know,

00:42:10.481 –> 00:42:13.541
it’s just audio and all you can hear is him describing what he saw.

00:42:13.621 –> 00:42:17.481
He’s like, it was a big furry man, I think, or foot.

00:42:17.581 –> 00:42:20.941
His foot was big and then he ran behind a bush and everyone’s like,

00:42:21.001 –> 00:42:21.901
that must have been Bigfoot.

00:42:22.121 –> 00:42:23.041
Yeah, definitely.

00:42:23.541 –> 00:42:26.141
Back then, you’re just like so ready to accept it. It’s like, absolutely.

00:42:26.301 –> 00:42:29.581
I mean, that seems to be the trend. Everybody’s pretty quick to jump on the train.

00:42:29.741 –> 00:42:32.741
And that just really made me laugh and it’s the same thing as UFO sightings.

00:42:32.961 –> 00:42:36.141
They have a lot of UFO sightings in South Carolina. Which is hilarious.

00:42:36.381 –> 00:42:40.321
And there’s actually this part, it’s like 50 miles outside of Charleston,

00:42:40.441 –> 00:42:43.861
where people say that there’s like a crop circle almost.

00:42:43.901 –> 00:42:44.861
Oh, yes, yes, yes.

00:42:44.861 –> 00:42:48.101
Where absolutely nothing can grow, not even an earthworm. And they don’t know why.

00:42:48.341 –> 00:42:52.181
It had nothing to do with the fire. It is a perfect circle. Then it’s just there.

00:42:52.281 –> 00:42:53.981
And they have no idea why it is there.

00:42:54.421 –> 00:43:00.161
But this is, hands down, without a doubt, my favorite ridiculous Charleston urban legend.

00:43:00.261 –> 00:43:02.521
It’s the swamp man and the lizard man.

00:43:02.841 –> 00:43:03.281
Yes.

00:43:03.281 –> 00:43:05.521
Oh, the Swamp Man and the Lizard Man are the same person?

00:43:05.641 –> 00:43:10.641
They’re the same person, apparently. And as far as Charleston stories go, fairly recent.

00:43:10.821 –> 00:43:15.461
It’s the wee dark hours in the morning of July 29th, or June 29th,

00:43:15.461 –> 00:43:16.981
I apologize. The wee dark hours. That’s what it says.

00:43:17.881 –> 00:43:24.701
1988. A teenage boy was driving home from work when he blew a tire along the edge of Scape or Swamp.

00:43:25.382 –> 00:43:28.042
First of all, what a great name for a swamp. He got out of the car to change

00:43:28.042 –> 00:43:31.822
the tire and he heard a loud sound, something like someone running at him and

00:43:31.822 –> 00:43:32.782
it was getting louder and louder.

00:43:32.962 –> 00:43:35.962
And then from the darkness, it says it emerged.

00:43:37.222 –> 00:43:42.282
Blazing red eyes, green scaly skin, long black claws on three fingers,

00:43:42.522 –> 00:43:44.722
a staggering seven feet tall.

00:43:45.102 –> 00:43:47.582
What else could it be but a lizard man?

00:43:48.162 –> 00:43:52.262
The boy jumped into his car for safety, but the lizard man attacked the car,

00:43:52.402 –> 00:43:55.222
ripping the a mirror off and gouging the roof off the vehicle

00:43:55.222 –> 00:43:57.922
two weeks later the police were called to the scene of some

00:43:57.922 –> 00:44:00.542
vandalism a car not too far from the

00:44:00.542 –> 00:44:03.762
same exact swamp had been attacked in the night fenders were

00:44:03.762 –> 00:44:06.642
ripped off the antenna was bent deep scratches along the body

00:44:06.642 –> 00:44:10.662
and the chrome trim had been chewed off and then

00:44:10.662 –> 00:44:13.322
that same summer more cars in the

00:44:13.322 –> 00:44:16.382
vicinity of skateboard swamp were brutally attacked and

00:44:16.382 –> 00:44:19.502
chewed on and then as as more cars are being vandalized

00:44:19.502 –> 00:44:22.422
they’re starting to say that they’re all seeing this enormous scaly

00:44:22.422 –> 00:44:25.342
green man lurking in the woods and swamps the police

00:44:25.342 –> 00:44:28.022
kept getting called out and the sheriff was starting to make

00:44:28.022 –> 00:44:31.442
this is real the sheriff was making plaster casts of

00:44:31.442 –> 00:44:36.222
the enormous three-toed footprints left behind in the thick swamp mud i just

00:44:36.222 –> 00:44:40.662
really hope this is somebody who worked on like a hollywood movie yeah the swamp

00:44:40.662 –> 00:44:44.782
man costume like that’s what i hope they considered calling the fbi decided

00:44:44.782 –> 00:44:49.582
against it But then in the cooler days and nights, so the summer’s come and gone,

00:44:49.722 –> 00:44:52.402
the Lizard Man, he receded back into his swamp.

00:44:52.742 –> 00:44:55.802
And then all of a sudden it got warmer again. And guess what? He’s back.

00:44:56.442 –> 00:44:59.762
And over the decades, there’s been sightings on some occasions,

00:44:59.762 –> 00:45:04.322
not as much as that first summer, but there’s a smattering of automobile maulings.

00:45:05.742 –> 00:45:09.402
And they’re always in the vicinity of the swamps around Bishopville,

00:45:09.502 –> 00:45:12.162
which is outside of Charleston, where Mr. Lizard Man lives.

00:45:12.530 –> 00:45:16.730
made his present i think that’s appetite for cars no i think.

00:45:16.730 –> 00:45:18.590
That’s the warning like don’t drive your good car.

00:45:18.590 –> 00:45:21.650
Around that in 2015 something remarkable happened

00:45:21.650 –> 00:45:24.930
dina oh there’s been proof a photograph oh

00:45:24.930 –> 00:45:30.570
my god of the creature was taken with her cell phone as she left church looking

00:45:30.570 –> 00:45:37.130
now there is a subsequent video oh my god may prove lizard man’s existence distance

00:45:37.130 –> 00:45:42.330
did you see it did you see it did you see it yes i sure did it’s incredible

00:45:42.330 –> 00:45:44.130
it looks like a t-rex costume it.

00:45:44.130 –> 00:45:44.810
Looks like it.

00:45:44.810 –> 00:45:52.230
Also looks like if a very jacked man would just want it to be a lizard please oh.

00:45:52.230 –> 00:45:54.610
My god there’s even one with like a new like it.

00:45:54.610 –> 00:45:56.070
Was on the news the.

00:45:56.070 –> 00:45:57.050
News lee county.

00:45:57.050 –> 00:46:02.330
It gets better the south carolina emergency management division my god tweeted

00:46:02.330 –> 00:46:06.250
out the warning about the possible Lizardman’s reappearance during the Great

00:46:06.250 –> 00:46:08.050
American Solar Eclipse of 2017.

00:46:09.190 –> 00:46:09.870
Stop it.

00:46:09.890 –> 00:46:12.950
During the solar eclipse, Lizardman was ready to come out.

00:46:13.470 –> 00:46:16.890
And they weren’t sure because of his nocturnal state. They were worried about

00:46:16.890 –> 00:46:20.970
the total solar eclipse if that would make him think it was nighttime and he would come out.

00:46:21.830 –> 00:46:23.210
Okay, but guess what, guys?

00:46:23.410 –> 00:46:24.130
He didn’t.

00:46:24.590 –> 00:46:28.050
He didn’t come out. So everyone’s really upset about it. I am dying.

00:46:28.150 –> 00:46:29.710
Maybe he didn’t know he was invited.

00:46:30.130 –> 00:46:35.070
Well, Lizardman’s real, guys. We saw him and he is clearly on steroids.

00:46:35.670 –> 00:46:40.070
I mean, this is the kind of lizard that I’m afraid of. But those are typically

00:46:40.070 –> 00:46:43.730
like kimono dragons. They’re usually in Australia.

00:46:43.870 –> 00:46:48.230
I can’t wait for you to see the picture of this. It looks like he’s been roid

00:46:48.230 –> 00:46:49.930
raging for 300 centuries.

00:46:49.950 –> 00:46:53.590
I cannot. It literally to me, that’s a Godzilla costume.

00:46:54.230 –> 00:46:57.170
But just think about the fact that this is probably some dude.

00:46:57.330 –> 00:47:00.290
Did he buy a costume and just spray paint it?

00:47:00.870 –> 00:47:06.390
He had to and like the the poor cops in the late 80s are just making plaster

00:47:06.390 –> 00:47:11.250
casts of his feet in the woods and it’s just some dude very lonely in his mom’s

00:47:11.250 –> 00:47:12.350
basement where he lives it’s.

00:47:12.350 –> 00:47:14.950
Like the serial killer who dressed up like a cat clown oh.

00:47:14.950 –> 00:47:17.130
I didn’t i did not like that because i actually lived.

00:47:17.130 –> 00:47:18.670
In that area at the time and that.

00:47:18.670 –> 00:47:20.970
Was i know a lot about that terrifying it really.

00:47:20.970 –> 00:47:24.750
Was and it started catching on yeah but cnn guys.

00:47:24.750 –> 00:47:26.590
Has a link to.

00:47:26.590 –> 00:47:32.730
That says is lizard man back cnn CNN affiliate WIS reports on Lizardman,

00:47:32.830 –> 00:47:37.990
a local urban legend that went viral on August 4th, 2015. Yeah. Oh, my God.

00:47:38.010 –> 00:47:41.770
He’s so jacked. It even made CNN. I can’t wait for you guys to see this.

00:47:41.810 –> 00:47:45.970
But also, I love that they say his appetite isn’t for people. It’s just automobiles.

00:47:46.030 –> 00:47:46.250
Yeah.

00:47:46.430 –> 00:47:48.810
He’s like, ooh, that cherry red paint. Let me get some of that.

00:47:48.930 –> 00:47:50.190
Yeah, right? Dessert.

00:47:50.650 –> 00:47:52.050
I got to do the fun, silly ones.

00:47:52.110 –> 00:47:55.450
Those were the fun, silly ones. And I think that is the fun of urban legends.

00:47:55.490 –> 00:47:55.710
Right?

00:47:55.730 –> 00:47:58.470
Some of them are just absolutely ridiculous that you’re like, really? really.

00:47:58.610 –> 00:48:02.910
Nothing about what I just said terrifies me. No. I’m not even like the ounce scared.

00:48:03.150 –> 00:48:06.190
Although the story you’re about to tell, which is hilarious because we can say

00:48:06.190 –> 00:48:08.470
it about everything, it is Charleston’s

00:48:08.890 –> 00:48:10.230
biggest urban legend.

00:48:10.230 –> 00:48:13.190
Yeah there are so many yeah urban legends

00:48:13.190 –> 00:48:18.630
right especially in this area and i guess a radio station decided to have a

00:48:18.630 –> 00:48:24.530
vote and they voted that the tomb that would not stay closed was the number

00:48:24.530 –> 00:48:28.730
one urban legend when i when i read that title i was like that sounds like are

00:48:28.730 –> 00:48:32.510
an and are you afraid of the dark episode yeah right yeah.

00:48:32.510 –> 00:48:34.030
Yeah it does i.

00:48:34.030 –> 00:48:37.070
Loved that show Me too. My mother did not love me watching that show.

00:48:37.070 –> 00:48:38.970
Have you seen the new, the remake of it?

00:48:39.050 –> 00:48:40.970
Yeah, with Justin Long. Yeah. Yeah, it’s good.

00:48:41.050 –> 00:48:41.350
It’s a movie?

00:48:41.630 –> 00:48:42.250
It’s a show.

00:48:42.250 –> 00:48:42.950
It’s a show. It’s good.

00:48:43.030 –> 00:48:44.330
It’s like a limited series.

00:48:44.450 –> 00:48:45.710
Yeah, your students probably love it.

00:48:45.770 –> 00:48:48.990
Yeah. How amazing. Well, it’s about Julia Laguerre.

00:48:49.210 –> 00:48:55.230
She was the wife of a wealthy planner in Edisto Island that just got sick one

00:48:55.230 –> 00:48:59.770
day, and they think it might have been diphtheria, which I don’t know much about

00:48:59.770 –> 00:49:04.070
that, but it said she tragically died of this disease, 1852.

00:49:04.070 –> 00:49:06.790
right so not only have we seen that they

00:49:06.790 –> 00:49:09.730
really don’t take care of people in jail or really question anything

00:49:09.730 –> 00:49:12.670
judiciously apparently you know if they

00:49:12.670 –> 00:49:16.630
think you’re dead you’re dead yeah that’s just what happens so the laguerre

00:49:16.630 –> 00:49:21.010
family had a mausoleum and you know put her in there sealed the door shut uh

00:49:21.010 –> 00:49:25.930
and apparently never went back that’s the part that i have a hard time with

00:49:25.930 –> 00:49:30.110
because you know if you think somebody your wife daughter sister passed away

00:49:30.110 –> 00:49:32.350
you’d visit them yeah No.

00:49:32.830 –> 00:49:35.210
A couple of years go by…

00:49:35.980 –> 00:49:42.140
Until Julia’s young son passes away and the groundskeeper reopened the door for his burial.

00:49:42.300 –> 00:49:48.960
Well, I don’t think they were expecting to find her decomposed body next to the door.

00:49:50.100 –> 00:49:54.400
So apparent. And also, let’s let’s add that there were scratch marks on the

00:49:54.400 –> 00:49:58.200
door interior, which basically tells you that she was entombed alive.

00:49:59.200 –> 00:50:00.160
It’s horrific.

00:50:00.480 –> 00:50:04.440
That’s horrible. You know, like they say, stories of people being buried alive.

00:50:04.440 –> 00:50:07.080
that’s why they put the little bells because during the black plague that you

00:50:07.080 –> 00:50:10.000
know they were never sure if someone was actually dead and you could ring the

00:50:10.000 –> 00:50:13.240
little bell but actually what happens when you die is your muscles kind of twitch

00:50:13.240 –> 00:50:16.960
and gases are released so the cemetery was just like a bunch of bells ringing

00:50:16.960 –> 00:50:23.280
and the you know the people like is everybody alive yeah what is happening that’s.

00:50:23.280 –> 00:50:23.900
My worst nightmare.

00:50:23.900 –> 00:50:24.700
Yes same yes.

00:50:24.700 –> 00:50:28.860
That’s terrifying that is beyond yeah i would wet myself.

00:50:28.860 –> 00:50:33.500
Well just like our boys from the yeah i’m with them i would release bodily of

00:50:33.500 –> 00:50:35.920
leaf fluids um and that is.

00:50:35.920 –> 00:50:40.220
Where the story kind of takes that urban legend twist because not only is that

00:50:40.220 –> 00:50:46.300
horrific but allegedly uh they tried reburying her bones and adding her deceased

00:50:46.300 –> 00:50:51.080
child right and they tried resealing the mausoleum door well now they’re saying

00:50:51.080 –> 00:50:52.760
the door refused to remain closed.

00:50:52.760 –> 00:50:54.440
Hell yeah it doesn’t it’s.

00:50:54.440 –> 00:50:58.660
I just picture her ghost like putting her foot exactly in the door like not again.

00:50:58.660 –> 00:51:00.980
You know yeah so.

00:51:00.980 –> 00:51:05.200
Because people were like frequenting the cemetery they did eventually just decide

00:51:05.200 –> 00:51:09.220
to take the door off so when you go to visit it now there actually is no door

00:51:09.220 –> 00:51:13.820
on her mausoleum but i get you know i feel like we talked about it with something

00:51:13.820 –> 00:51:16.260
else that you know i was like don’t close the door yeah.

00:51:16.260 –> 00:51:16.940
So like.

00:51:16.940 –> 00:51:17.260
Maybe.

00:51:17.260 –> 00:51:19.000
It’s just like some sort of.

00:51:19.000 –> 00:51:21.760
Warning that kind of yeah spirits are.

00:51:21.760 –> 00:51:22.500
Telling you like.

00:51:22.500 –> 00:51:28.920
Let them out yeah right well the dungeon with the tour guide the door slam closed keep.

00:51:28.920 –> 00:51:32.100
Them out yeah and i mean i

00:51:32.100 –> 00:51:35.640
love that we’re kind of ending on that because false circle

00:51:35.640 –> 00:51:39.900
for charleston obviously something we learned like it’s very dark

00:51:39.900 –> 00:51:42.820
roots on how charleston was settled what they did to settle

00:51:42.820 –> 00:51:46.780
and create their town you know as a port town and all

00:51:46.780 –> 00:51:49.880
of that kind of stuff but because it’s rooted

00:51:49.880 –> 00:51:53.240
in so much evil you can’t not expect it

00:51:53.240 –> 00:51:57.100
to be haunted yeah and no matter what you believe you

00:51:57.100 –> 00:52:00.880
can’t deny even if you’re a skeptic for this kind of stuff you can’t deny what

00:52:00.880 –> 00:52:05.980
happened there yeah is not haunting you know what i mean like truly horrific

00:52:05.980 –> 00:52:09.180
things you’ve got the fire you’ve got the flood you’ve got all the horrific

00:52:09.180 –> 00:52:11.060
plantations and slavery and

00:52:11.060 –> 00:52:14.480
slave trade they use that port for massive amounts of slave well that’s.

00:52:14.480 –> 00:52:17.960
The thing like it being a coastal town especially you have so many people coming

00:52:17.960 –> 00:52:20.000
So you have so many cultures.

00:52:20.000 –> 00:52:22.480
And people from all over.

00:52:22.480 –> 00:52:26.660
The place coming to this area, bringing with them all of their…

00:52:27.785 –> 00:52:30.985
history and culture and everything there as well i.

00:52:30.985 –> 00:52:35.365
Kind of look at it as because it was founded,

00:52:36.365 –> 00:52:40.345
on so much horrible whatever you want to call it these are the people that are

00:52:40.345 –> 00:52:43.845
like no we’re going to keep our story alive until the right people are ready

00:52:43.845 –> 00:52:48.665
to tell this the real story absolutely and i i kind of love that because charleston

00:52:48.665 –> 00:52:52.605
is one of the most touristy areas in the country, right?

00:52:52.625 –> 00:52:53.225
Haunted places.

00:52:53.445 –> 00:52:56.685
That’s number one. All right.

00:52:56.865 –> 00:53:01.065
But I think even if if people aren’t familiar with many different places in

00:53:01.065 –> 00:53:02.765
the United States, you know, Charleston. Yeah.

00:53:02.905 –> 00:53:06.565
And, you know, there are some spooky, creepy things going on there.

00:53:06.705 –> 00:53:12.425
This one was really fun because, you know, we told the the spooky aspects of it.

00:53:12.505 –> 00:53:15.225
But, you know, feel free to do your own research again. We’re going to throw

00:53:15.225 –> 00:53:18.465
up all those links and we hope you enjoyed the stories because Because they

00:53:18.465 –> 00:53:20.845
were a lot of fun to tell this time.

00:53:21.025 –> 00:53:24.705
And this was one that we didn’t know a lot about. Even though you two had done

00:53:24.705 –> 00:53:26.665
tours. We all learned a lot in this one.

00:53:26.805 –> 00:53:31.365
Where Sleepy Hollow, we grew up with it, right? So this one was definitely a learning curve for us.

00:53:31.785 –> 00:53:36.465
But it is one. I mean, I have to go now. We have to go.

00:53:36.585 –> 00:53:40.705
Yes. And we encourage that. Anyone listening who’s got a little bit of a spark

00:53:40.705 –> 00:53:43.805
of interest. I would recommend it 100%.

00:53:43.805 –> 00:53:47.905
And also, send us your stories. Because when we did Sleepy Hollow,

00:53:48.085 –> 00:53:52.325
we got people saying like, yeah, I’ve done the tour. I did the nighttime tour.

00:53:52.605 –> 00:53:54.525
If you were lucky enough to have Dina as your tour guide.

00:53:54.845 –> 00:53:58.745
But also for people in our inner circle who we all went to school,

00:53:58.785 –> 00:54:00.625
we all learned these stories. We’re all told these stories.

00:54:00.845 –> 00:54:04.005
But this is one of those ones where I want to hear everyone else’s stories.

00:54:04.065 –> 00:54:06.805
Because the Sleepy Hollow stories I have been hearing from, you know,

00:54:06.805 –> 00:54:08.865
family members and friends my whole life.

00:54:08.945 –> 00:54:11.925
But I want to hear other people’s stories because it just seems like this…

00:54:12.854 –> 00:54:17.274
A whole freaking place as gorgeous and beautiful and historic as it is and just

00:54:17.274 –> 00:54:21.434
like a mecca of beautiful food and shopping. What a freak show.

00:54:21.634 –> 00:54:22.074
Yeah.

00:54:22.194 –> 00:54:24.494
So I want to hear more about that.

00:54:24.614 –> 00:54:28.094
There’s got to be. Yeah, I feel like anyone that grew up there has stories.

00:54:28.374 –> 00:54:29.474
Went to college there.

00:54:29.474 –> 00:54:34.394
You know, like you grew up hearing these stories or other stories or we’d love to hear them.

00:54:34.714 –> 00:54:35.154
Yeah.

00:54:35.214 –> 00:54:38.614
And we know there’s so many that we didn’t even have enough time to tell.

00:54:38.674 –> 00:54:41.694
To tell. And again, I just do want to reiterate. reiterate um

00:54:41.694 –> 00:54:44.454
we talked about it a little bit in one of our other episodes we are going

00:54:44.454 –> 00:54:47.874
to be doing a bonus episode for you guys on the darker

00:54:47.874 –> 00:54:50.794
history of how charleston was founded so we’re going to get somebody that’s

00:54:50.794 –> 00:54:54.174
a little bit more educated on that topic to do that episode with us and educate

00:54:54.174 –> 00:54:58.394
us because we don’t know a lot and we’re excited to share that with you guys

00:54:58.394 –> 00:55:03.074
and we also want suggestions on what we should do for next season we have some

00:55:03.074 –> 00:55:06.614
holiday episodes planned for you we know what we’re doing for that but we want

00:55:06.614 –> 00:55:10.734
suggestions like if you live in a town that It has some creepy, creepy stuff going on.

00:55:10.814 –> 00:55:10.934
Yeah.

00:55:11.134 –> 00:55:15.334
And people don’t know about it. Tell us and we will do it.

00:55:15.494 –> 00:55:16.094
I want to know.

00:55:16.594 –> 00:55:16.954
You want to know.

00:55:17.054 –> 00:55:18.234
We like the unknown.

00:55:18.434 –> 00:55:18.914
We do.

00:55:20.094 –> 00:55:21.214
On that note.

00:55:21.394 –> 00:55:24.574
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00:55:24.954 –> 00:55:30.594
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00:55:30.674 –> 00:55:32.034
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00:55:40.374 –> 00:55:42.534
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