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One night, a weary traveler found himself lost in one of South Carolina’s dense forests.

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Hungry and in need of shelter, he caught the faint aroma of cooking in the air

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and spotted a quaint cabin nestled among the trees.

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He watched with relief as the door opened, revealing a lovely young woman.

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Her face was kind, and seeing he was in need, she offered him a deal.

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A hearty meal and a good night’s sleep in exchange for some work around the house.

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Feeling the emptiness in his stomach, the man quickly agreed.

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The feast was tasty and warm, and he’d hardly known a better night’s sleep.

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So comfortable was he that the next day, when it came time to continue his journey,

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he decided to stay on as a handyman.

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Days turned into weeks and weeks into months.

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And eventually, the two entered into a comfortable common-law marriage.

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The arrangement was easy and agreeable for the pair. That is,

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until one night, when the man awoke to discover his wife had vanished from their bed.

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Perhaps she’s not well, he thought, before closing his eyes once again.

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The next morning he inquired as to her health.

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Had she been ill the night before?

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What do you mean? she bristled. I slept like a baby, but the man was clever,

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and he sensed something was amiss.

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He decided to stay awake that night to see if the strange behavior continued.

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As he lay still, he heard his wife rise and whisper something strange.

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Turn and spin. Come off, skin.

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With his eyes still closed, the man heard a peculiar shuffling sound.

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He waited, heart pounding, as the woman scurried out of the cabin.

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When he was certain she had left, he opened his eyes to find his worst fears confirmed.

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There, under the bed, lay the empty skin of his wife, peeled away like a corn husk.

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This woman wasn’t a human, but a boo hag, an undead creature of the darkest magic.

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He’d heard tell of these creatures, and he knew they could only survive by stealing energy from the living.

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He also knew that if he wanted to get rid of it, he’d have to work quickly.

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He gathered up the boo hag’s skin and moved to the kitchen, where he pulled

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the salt and spicy red pepper off the shelf.

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With careful hands, the man sprinkled the salt and red pepper over the empty

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skin, making sure it covered every nook and fold.

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Then he returned the flesh to where he’d found it and crawled beneath the covers,

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feigning sleep until the creature came back.

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As dawn approached, he heard the door creak open.

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I done had me some fun.

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My work’s done, so skin, let me in. He heard the Boo Hag chuckle.

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There was silence for a moment as the Boo Hag stepped back into its fleshly disguise.

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Skin, let me in!

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To the creature’s surprise, it seemed that this time the skin wouldn’t fit.

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The salt had shrunken and hardened it into a leathery mess.

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The man listened quietly as the being howled, Skinny!

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Skinny! Don’t you know me? The red pepper burned her flesh.

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This skin was now a torturous prison. Finally, there was a long,

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painful groan, followed by a heavy thump.

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The boo-hack was dead. As the first light of dawn crept through the window,

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the man turned to see the remnants of his wife. life.

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Nothing but salt and tiny bits of dried, shredded leather.

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He wasted no time in gathering his belongings and leaving that haunted cabin

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without so much as a glance behind him.

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It was a lesson he wouldn’t soon forget.

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Not everything is as it seems.

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Welcome back, guys, to our final episode of the season.

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This is it.

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And what a creepy, freaking story to round the season out. The Boo Hag, no thank you. Yeah.

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It’s technically an urban legend, which urban legends, to me,

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that’s American folklore.

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We’ve taken all of these things, melted them together, and now we have our own

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kind of culture, contrary to what people say.

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Because I had to look up the actual definition of what an urban legend is supposed

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to be. And it’s either it’s either going to scare you or it’s going to teach you something.

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So that made me think of fairy tales, right? Because fairy tales started out

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super dark and they were always to warn typically women to like not do something

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or not behave a certain way.

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And I think our urban legends were like that.

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This connects so much with Charleston, though. Anyway, just bring it full circle,

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which is why I love that we’re doing it as our finale, because there’s so much

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of this Charleston talk that we’ve had in these past episodes that we can’t confirm.

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Right. So this is all really urban legend, you know, that we’re basing this on.

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And my experience being down in Charleston, I know we’ve heard about Dale’s ghost horror.

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Mine was a little more traumatic and it stemmed from learning about the Gullah Geechee culture.

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When you picture Charleston, you know, and I’m sure we’ve posted maps and things

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like that to kind of give you the visual.

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But the Gullah people spread from about Cape Fear, North Carolina,

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which was very close to the original Charlestown, all the way down to Jacksonville, Florida.

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And it was because we had that slave trade going on.

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Right.

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So this this Gullah culture kind of came from and was established by these enslaved

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Africans who typically came from Central or West Africa.

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And they developed this Creole culture which preserved their linguistics,

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their their overarching culture in general, their heritage and culture.

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I think that’s an amazing thing to do. They kind of brought in Christianity

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and Islam and then created their own, you know, style of worship.

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Let’s call it that, style of worship. This culture, I’ve, you know,

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I automatically think like voodoo, which, again, makes me think of New Orleans,

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which I always like connect the two.

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But they did believe in witchcraft. They did have what was called like root

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doctors and witch doctors, voodoo priests.

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There was an extremely famous one named Minerva, who…

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McGonagall?

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No.

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Minerva?

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She was apparently a character in the movie The Garden of Good and Evil.

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Ooh.

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Which, that’s an oldie but a goodie.

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That’s a great movie.

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And I’m going to have to revisit that one.

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Yeah.

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But it’s just so funny to me because when I read about it, how they called it

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voodoo, juju, voodoo, hoodoo, I think the labyrinth. I’m like, hoodoo, you do.

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I love the labyrinth. I know. I had to throw the reference out there.

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But they had their own superstitions, their own kind of way of warning people of things.

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So I’ve read that they used to put newspapers on their wall or a piece of newspaper

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in their shoe to ward off bad spirits because they would spend more time reading

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it and lose interest and then disappearing.

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That’s wild.

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And I’m just like, OK, so they do their amulets, they do their mojo thing.

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But really, they have this idea that people have both a spirit and a soul.

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OK, I thought that was very unique, you know, because I don’t feel like I remember

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that being a thing in Christianity. I don’t know about.

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No and we kind of touched on

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this in the last episode even though we were joking about it the outlander

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series which all of us are very into there are portions

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of the series when they are in the carolinas yes

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and they have what i’m assuming they based off the gala gala people and they

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stumble upon gala gichi gala gichi um i’m saying please forgive me my ignorance

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um But they stumble upon these ceremonies that they’re having on the beach.

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And at first it seems like, oh, this is going to be scary. But then,

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you know, they kind of give it a chance.

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And it’s like, wow, this is like, it’s really just a way to talk. Yeah.

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Speak to the spirits. It’s like one of those weird things because that’s so pop culture. Right.

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But very based on historical situations.

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But now I feel like hearing your story, I kind of have a visual.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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I love it. And I mean, just reading a little bit of their, like the foundation

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of their culture, I guess.

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So they believe they have both a spirit and a soul, right?

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Your soul would ascend to heaven or go down to hell, right? Depending on how your life was.

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With our girl Lavinia.

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Yes, definitely. But your spirit stays behind to help guide your descendants

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as part of this ancestor worship that kind of stems from Hoodoo.

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And I was like, that’s incredible.

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But they definitely believe in evil spirits. And the more I learned about this,

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the more I realized we probably saw things in Charleston and we didn’t even

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realize what we were looking at.

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Yeah.

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So…

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Fair.

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That leads us to one of their…

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It’s so hard for me to talk about one of their more terrifying stories or urban

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legends, which is called the Boo Hag.

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Which everyone kind of heard a little bit about in the story to start the episode. Yes.

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So hopefully you’ve got a nice little image in your head, but I’m going to help you visualize this.

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There are a few different variations to their Boo Hags, like there’s this traditional one.

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There’s one that’s called Mrs. Hag, which I personally love.

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But essentially, it could be this evil spirit.

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It could be almost in the realm of a female vampire-like creature.

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People have said it even looks witch-like or demon-like.

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But essentially, all of them peel off their skin.

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and this is always at night they peel off their skin and they’re basically looking

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for a human skin bag to kind of jump into,

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but where they vary from vampires they don’t suck out your blood they’re actually

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sucking out your spirit so a warning sign has been if you wake up and you feel

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exhausted but you’ve gotten a full night’s sleep that they say you could have

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been visited by a boo hag at night Right.

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So they don’t kill you. They just take your soul.

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Apparently. I mean, I guess they could kill you.

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Right. Yeah.

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I apparently escaped within an inch of my life and I didn’t even realize it.

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But when they’re talking about this, this witchcraft and this evil magic,

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right, it’s to cause this havoc like amongst innocent people.

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And they connect the boo hag with sleep paralysis. Right.

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Which I have horrendously.

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Horrendously and like you said in the last episode the like explain

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it away yeah yes what an easy way like we

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could we could blame science on that but there’s this like

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i said i’m gonna give you the picture it’s called the nightmare and i

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love that and it’s a creepy freaking picture but i kind of want

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it but it it’s the one that i showed you before that oh it’s this little demon

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looking things sitting on top of a white woman who’s kind of like sprawled out

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in white sleeping And it was originally painted in 1781 by this Swiss artist named Henry Fusilli and,

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they called it an incubus that’s on top of yes and.

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I actually knew this story because i’m a huge incubus fan the band.

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Uh yes which.

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They they talk about how when they found this the name for the band it was based off the spirit.

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Yeah that’s why which i don’t like because i was like does that mean you’re

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evil no they’re so good have you.

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Seen how beautiful brendan boyd is come.

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On yes i used to have like a full wall poster of them in my college same but

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i digress so anyway but that That picture really kind of helps put this into

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perspective because the boo hag is said to come to you at night and,

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you know, quote unquote,

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ride you, like sit on you and suck the air from your lungs as you sleep.

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So, OK, if you’re lucky, you wake up exhausted, they say. Right.

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But if you wake up during the encounter, that’s when it could possibly kill you.

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I’m going to dispute that point as I am here to tell the tale you.

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Are alive,

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I’m so excited for this I.

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Am not I get so creeped out that it’s going to happen again every time I tell it.

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We’re representing them well we’re talking.

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About them and.

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I do just want to say something that I had mentioned to Dina when she showed

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me the picture of this skinless creature I’m like why are they all veiny why

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do they look like something from the body museum and she was like,

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well, because they have no skin.

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Well, I was like, what does that smell like?

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So actually, I did find that because that could be a warning sign that one is close to you.

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So, you know, and that reminds me of your jail or dungeon story.

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Right?

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Because the air would become very hot and very damp. I was like,

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eh, I don’t really believe that. This is Charleston, South Carolina.

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It’s humid. We all know it, you know? But it says the air smells like something is rotting.

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Oh, okay.

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So there we go. So when your veins are outside of your body,

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And you have no skin. You smell like you’re rotting, apparently.

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That adds up. That adds up. Okay.

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So my ghost tour was at night, obviously. My tour, I should say, was at night.

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And I don’t really remember a lot of the places. This was definitely a few years ago.

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I do remember that we passed a haunted ATM at one point.

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Does it give you free money? Because I would love to visit it.

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Yes, I wish. But you know the things that you send the thing up to?

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Oh, yeah, yes.

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Like the thing would just go off. And it actually did go off a couple of times

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as we were walking by. And I was like, that could be staged. Right. Yeah.

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So anyway, our tour ends at the gates to the Unitarian Church where I hear the

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story for the first time that this could be where Annabelle Lee was buried. Right.

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And she could have stopped there. That was the end of the tour.

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OK. But now Dina has to ask questions and find out more information.

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So then she decides to tell her own experience about the boo hag,

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which is the first time I’ve ever even heard of this. I thought she was completely

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joking because the way you get rid of them is a little bit ridiculous.

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It’s very outlandish. So if you need a cure to get rid of a boo hag.

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We probably will after this episode. So please tell us. Yeah.

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She told me that one of the ways to get rid of them was with a straw broom or

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anything with bristles because they get distracted by counting.

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They have to count all the bristles and then eventually the sun comes up and

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then they’re destroyed. sounds ridiculous right so they.

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Can only come out at night.

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Correct and.

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They have a little touch of ocd maybe a little adhd like me they got a spicy brain.

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So they just have to count things yeah okay and i’m just

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like okay that’s that seems ridiculous like that’s obviously

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made up right i’m totally skeptical at this point and

00:16:00.530 –> 00:16:03.330
i go home which was not home it was an

00:16:03.330 –> 00:16:06.410
airbnb you know my friends and i were there for the weekend and i couldn’t sleep

00:16:06.410 –> 00:16:11.070
like i just was like no i’m I’m like something is popping out like I can’t and

00:16:11.070 –> 00:16:15.490
my friend who I was sharing the room with had already driven back home So I

00:16:15.490 –> 00:16:20.850
was by myself and I was terrified and I’m only saying that because I got very little sleep Okay,

00:16:20.910 –> 00:16:25.570
the next day we had about a three-hour drive back home and I wind up falling asleep on my couch,

00:16:26.130 –> 00:16:29.350
Alright makes perfect sense right because I was exhausted.

00:16:29.470 –> 00:16:33.890
I’ve been all night Well while I’m sleeping I wake up.

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But I cannot open my eyes, okay? And I knew I was awake. I 100% knew I was awake.

00:16:40.742 –> 00:16:43.382
And I tried to move. I thought maybe I could like rub my eyes.

00:16:43.482 –> 00:16:45.942
Nope, couldn’t move whatsoever.

00:16:46.622 –> 00:16:51.142
Now I get it, sleep paralysis. I have never had sleep paralysis in my entire life.

00:16:51.382 –> 00:16:57.222
I’m like struggling and like fighting to open up my eyelids when all of a sudden

00:16:57.222 –> 00:17:03.842
I feel a hand on my chest pressed, push me into the couch,

00:17:04.042 –> 00:17:07.082
like push me down into the couch.

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And I will never forget the feeling because I was like, what on earth is touching me right now?

00:17:13.342 –> 00:17:20.602
And so I started like fighting to wake up, wake myself up, thinking that I must

00:17:20.602 –> 00:17:23.502
have still been in a dream to move my arms, to move my legs,

00:17:23.542 –> 00:17:25.002
to get up off of this couch.

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And eventually it worked. And I flew off the couch,

00:17:28.962 –> 00:17:34.942
ouch hysterically crying like what the hell was that now they usually say dogs

00:17:34.942 –> 00:17:38.462
can sense evil and i have a dog and she literally was just like chilling on

00:17:38.462 –> 00:17:41.222
her bed the entire time watching whatever which is wild because.

00:17:41.222 –> 00:17:45.382
Coco barks i mean i don’t know maybe the boo had gave her a treat.

00:17:46.222 –> 00:17:49.002
Possibly so i i am skeptical that way but i am

00:17:49.002 –> 00:17:51.782
telling you i know what i felt and i did not

00:17:51.782 –> 00:17:54.722
see see anything but it is an

00:17:54.722 –> 00:17:57.882
you you know what that feeling feels

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like when there is a hand on you yeah yeah and

00:18:01.142 –> 00:18:03.862
thankfully one of the girls that I went on a trip with

00:18:03.862 –> 00:18:10.102
is married to a minister so I call her hysterically I’m like you both need to

00:18:10.102 –> 00:18:15.562
get over here right now okay while I’m waiting for them to come over to now

00:18:15.562 –> 00:18:23.282
exercise my house because I’m convinced it’s there I call the tour company stop hold on.

00:18:23.282 –> 00:18:30.422
Hold on just trying to have a visual here you’re the tour company here’s a hysterical

00:18:30.422 –> 00:18:31.922
girl what time of the day is this.

00:18:31.922 –> 00:18:35.642
Oh it’s middle of the afternoon that is incredible i was just glad somebody

00:18:35.642 –> 00:18:41.482
picked up and i am sobbing like i don’t remember what my tour guy’s name was

00:18:41.482 –> 00:18:44.442
but she told us the story and i swear to god it’s happening and i don’t know

00:18:44.442 –> 00:18:48.182
what i’m supposed to do right now and she goes well i guess one followed you

00:18:48.182 –> 00:18:51.242
home i’m sorry I was like, that is not helpful.

00:18:51.722 –> 00:18:55.382
Yeah. And so she was just like, well, Google it, essentially.

00:18:55.502 –> 00:18:59.942
You know, like what you could do to get rid of it. So anyway, that was not helpful.

00:19:00.222 –> 00:19:04.182
A friend comes over with her husband and he goes from room to room and he blesses

00:19:04.182 –> 00:19:06.682
the rooms and stuff. Yeah, I didn’t sleep for two days.

00:19:07.062 –> 00:19:11.482
When I say I grabbed every hairbrush, dustpan, broom.

00:19:11.502 –> 00:19:13.142
Any form of brush, broom.

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Yeah, sweeping.

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18 toothbrushes on the floor.

00:19:17.022 –> 00:19:18.702
Just around your whole bed.

00:19:18.702 –> 00:19:25.602
My bed, my couch, Coco’s toothbrush, anything that I could put anything with

00:19:25.602 –> 00:19:27.842
bristles underneath, it was there.

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And I will say nothing ever did wind up happening again.

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It was the most terrifying experience. And as somebody who enjoys the spooky,

00:19:36.037 –> 00:19:38.997
creepy things, I’ve always wanted to have an encounter.

00:19:39.197 –> 00:19:42.117
You know, like everything you were saying last week, I keep picturing these

00:19:42.117 –> 00:19:43.197
dungeons. I’m like, I want to go.

00:19:43.397 –> 00:19:46.517
Yeah. Then I think back to that moment and I was like, that was not fun.

00:19:46.657 –> 00:19:46.857
Yeah.

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That was not fun.

00:19:50.037 –> 00:19:50.617
Understandably so.

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Yeah. Okay.

00:19:52.677 –> 00:19:53.037
Okay.

00:19:53.597 –> 00:19:54.697
Got to cool down a little bit.

00:19:54.737 –> 00:19:59.937
Okay. So kind of this kind of leads us into like, first of all, I.

00:19:59.937 –> 00:20:03.757
Could tell you, you know, of ways to prevent it too well.

00:20:03.757 –> 00:20:05.237
Go ahead i.

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Mean because we think we’ve passed that stage but yeah go ahead but i mean isn’t

00:20:10.617 –> 00:20:14.317
that the the point of like the urban legend right you hear this story it’s terrifying

00:20:14.317 –> 00:20:20.817
you try and figure out a way to avoid that from happening to you right thus enter the haint paint oh.

00:20:20.817 –> 00:20:21.377
Yes yes yes.

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I was like we can’t we can’t skip that so haint h-a-i-n-t is a specific color

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of blue, like an indigo blue, that people…

00:20:31.417 –> 00:20:31.717
Indigo?

00:20:31.917 –> 00:20:36.377
Exactly. You said that last time, you know, that they saw that color, right? In the pit?

00:20:36.557 –> 00:20:37.697
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Apparently, it’s to ward off evil spirits.

00:20:41.237 –> 00:20:41.737
Interesting.

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So there are porches and different things throughout Charleston that are painted

00:20:47.877 –> 00:20:50.717
this color blue to keep the evil spirits away.

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I think it was our second episode. Didn’t we talk about one of the buildings?

00:20:54.317 –> 00:20:58.617
The second half of the building was painted in the paint because they were like,

00:20:58.637 –> 00:21:00.657
you know, it’s painted in the blue color.

00:21:00.737 –> 00:21:03.217
And it was the top half. And that was the most haunted.

00:21:03.677 –> 00:21:07.977
Of course. Of course. That would make sense.

00:21:08.277 –> 00:21:12.257
I guess I didn’t see this personally, but it’s beautiful to look at.

00:21:12.297 –> 00:21:14.237
They’ve also created what’s called bottle trees.

00:21:14.577 –> 00:21:20.837
So they put these actual glass bottles that are dyed blue all over different

00:21:20.837 –> 00:21:24.957
trees, sticks, branches, things like that. and it looks really cute in a garden

00:21:24.957 –> 00:21:28.517
but again, it’s supposed to keep these ghosts and evil spirits away.

00:21:28.737 –> 00:21:30.277
That specific color.

00:21:30.437 –> 00:21:35.337
I think that when I go back to Charleston everything in my suitcase will be that color.

00:21:35.517 –> 00:21:37.557
Yep. And maybe like wear a necklace.

00:21:37.557 –> 00:21:40.337
Wait, hold on. Dina’s going to paint herself like the Blue Man Group?

00:21:55.926 –> 00:22:02.246
The story of the Gullah people, when you’re telling it, like something I think

00:22:02.246 –> 00:22:04.186
is so beautiful about that.

00:22:04.266 –> 00:22:09.006
And this is, you know, maybe a tough topic, but my my grandmother who’s passed,

00:22:09.186 –> 00:22:15.366
she practiced Santeria, which is, you know, very similar to this and truly believed

00:22:15.366 –> 00:22:18.466
in evil spirits and had her own ways of warding them off.

00:22:18.606 –> 00:22:22.246
And there is something to be said in the beauty of it, because there is like,

00:22:22.326 –> 00:22:25.426
you know, just in the research we’ve done for this and the stuff I’ve read.

00:22:25.426 –> 00:22:28.446
they really were robbed of their culture

00:22:28.446 –> 00:22:31.506
during slave trade and they did such a wonderful job

00:22:31.506 –> 00:22:34.786
of trying to preserve it yeah and it has bled you

00:22:34.786 –> 00:22:37.726
know like like we always do our society

00:22:37.726 –> 00:22:40.406
has stolen things from their culture to try and make it

00:22:40.406 –> 00:22:43.266
our own yeah but stories like this about the like

00:22:43.266 –> 00:22:46.626
i love learning these things because

00:22:46.626 –> 00:22:49.646
you know we just kind of whitewash these stories

00:22:49.646 –> 00:22:52.526
in history yeah and these stories

00:22:52.526 –> 00:22:55.366
are not like they they brought these stories

00:22:55.366 –> 00:23:00.166
with them and their cultures are thousands and thousands and thousands of years

00:23:00.166 –> 00:23:05.206
older than ours and i kind of like trust them way more than oh sure yeah you

00:23:05.206 –> 00:23:09.626
know what i mean 100 percent yeah their stuff is rooted in actual experience

00:23:09.626 –> 00:23:14.046
where ours is rooted in 15 different layers stories yeah.

00:23:14.046 –> 00:23:18.306
And that’s why i’m I’m also glad I didn’t read all of this before,

00:23:18.366 –> 00:23:22.566
like knowing that because they say if you fight, the boo hag might steal your skin.

00:23:22.606 –> 00:23:24.766
Very similar to our story that we heard.

00:23:24.966 –> 00:23:27.966
And I mean, I don’t know. I’m sure there’s something to it that,

00:23:27.966 –> 00:23:31.666
you know, it’s a female hag, women, witches.

00:23:31.906 –> 00:23:35.106
Yeah. You know, I do think there might be more to it than that.

00:23:35.186 –> 00:23:41.766
I haven’t dug that deep, but I think it’s a I don’t know what it’s supposed to warn you of.

00:23:41.846 –> 00:23:44.746
Well, I also I don’t know. I think there’s like something to be said.

00:23:44.746 –> 00:23:49.026
I know you’re going to kind of jump into some more of like the stories from

00:23:49.026 –> 00:23:51.286
that culture and kind of stemming from that.

00:23:51.346 –> 00:23:55.966
But there’s something to be said about these stories have stood the test of time.

00:23:56.026 –> 00:23:59.566
They’re still telling these stories because these experiences are still happening.

00:23:59.726 –> 00:24:03.346
Yeah. Do you want to tell your your other creepy story?

00:24:03.386 –> 00:24:05.366
I mean, I can. I can jump right in. OK.

00:24:05.606 –> 00:24:07.906
This one’s kind of my favorite.

00:24:07.906 –> 00:24:14.526
In 1867 in Charleston, the owner of a new apothecary found himself on the wrong

00:24:14.526 –> 00:24:17.266
end of a rioting group of over 500 people.

00:24:17.506 –> 00:24:22.726
So the apothecary was opened up in a building called the John Lining House,

00:24:22.906 –> 00:24:25.906
which was a historic home built in the late 1700s.

00:24:26.666 –> 00:24:27.926
Is it one of the oldest buildings?

00:24:28.206 –> 00:24:28.946
Probably was.

00:24:29.206 –> 00:24:30.386
Is it the most haunted building?

00:24:30.666 –> 00:24:34.386
It might be. It doesn’t actually, you know what’s funny is this one doesn’t

00:24:34.386 –> 00:24:37.446
say that. It does not say that. So, I mean, maybe they just didn’t have enough

00:24:37.446 –> 00:24:38.466
people talking about it.

00:24:38.486 –> 00:24:43.126
But this building originally was owned by a doctor named John Lining,

00:24:43.206 –> 00:24:47.026
and he gave the house to his wife as a gift.

00:24:47.386 –> 00:24:49.866
And so obviously time has gone by.

00:24:50.646 –> 00:24:55.186
The story that I’m going to talk about is a gentleman by the name of Dr.

00:24:55.506 –> 00:24:59.866
Trott, and he opens up an apothecary in this building.

00:25:00.146 –> 00:25:07.026
And so the original owners would rent out this space for a doctor to come in

00:25:07.026 –> 00:25:08.246
and run it as an apothecary.

00:25:08.386 –> 00:25:16.126
This doctor opened up his shop in 1867, so quite some time after it was built originally.

00:25:16.386 –> 00:25:16.666
For sure.

00:25:16.666 –> 00:25:21.066
And he wasn’t doing well. People weren’t coming. And he was like,

00:25:21.126 –> 00:25:23.606
what’s going on? I don’t have a single customer.

00:25:23.866 –> 00:25:25.926
Like, I don’t understand why no one’s coming.

00:25:26.686 –> 00:25:33.446
Finally, a customer comes in. He asks them like, hey, why is no one coming to my apothecary?

00:25:33.546 –> 00:25:37.006
Because obviously he’s probably one of the only ones in the area.

00:25:37.006 –> 00:25:40.286
the customer’s like oh yeah well all of

00:25:40.286 –> 00:25:48.346
the locals went to a gala root doctor they get all of their like all of their

00:25:48.346 –> 00:25:51.886
medicines and everything from her so they they don’t need to come to the apothecary

00:25:51.886 –> 00:25:57.566
he’s like what the heck why are they going to a doctor it actually.

00:25:57.566 –> 00:25:58.766
Probably was a man the root.

00:25:58.766 –> 00:26:04.946
Doctors are typically men female really uh-huh so dr trot uh decided he needed

00:26:04.946 –> 00:26:09.166
to do something to really like bring in the crowd, because obviously he wasn’t

00:26:09.166 –> 00:26:12.486
going to get any customers if there wasn’t a reason for them to come.

00:26:12.606 –> 00:26:16.606
And he felt like he needed something that was spectacular to get them to come

00:26:16.606 –> 00:26:20.106
in. So he immediately thought of, oh, also Dr.

00:26:20.286 –> 00:26:24.886
Trott is originally from New York. So if you can assume where this might be

00:26:24.886 –> 00:26:28.306
going, he immediately thought of the infamous P.T.

00:26:28.406 –> 00:26:37.266
Barnum, the creator of the first modern circus, and the Fiji Mermaid.

00:26:37.586 –> 00:26:41.426
The Fiji Mermaid, though, however, if you don’t know the story,

00:26:41.686 –> 00:26:47.046
people were extremely disgusted by this mermaid because the mermaid was the

00:26:47.046 –> 00:26:51.646
ugliest thing people had ever seen to the point of riots outside of the museum

00:26:51.646 –> 00:26:59.566
because the mermaid was a shriveled body of a monkey sewn onto a fish’s body. That is so disgusting.

00:26:59.866 –> 00:27:03.466
Not Ariel. Yeah. Not, you know, not the pretty mermaid. I mean,

00:27:03.486 –> 00:27:04.946
at that time, there was no Ariel yet.

00:27:04.966 –> 00:27:06.926
Not John Cena in the Barbie movie?

00:27:07.146 –> 00:27:07.286
Yeah.

00:27:07.346 –> 00:27:07.966
Oh my God.

00:27:07.966 –> 00:27:11.306
That would be terrible. But of course, Dr. Trott’s like, that’s okay.

00:27:11.526 –> 00:27:15.826
We’re going to close the shop down. I’m going to make my own mermaid.

00:27:16.414 –> 00:27:17.474
So he closes his little shop down.

00:27:17.474 –> 00:27:18.554
Seems like a very bad idea.

00:27:18.574 –> 00:27:19.794
I was literally just thinking that.

00:27:19.874 –> 00:27:22.214
But here’s the thing, is he posted

00:27:22.214 –> 00:27:27.574
a sign that said free magic show with a countdown that read four days.

00:27:27.854 –> 00:27:33.654
So of course, curiosity began to build in the community because people were

00:27:33.654 –> 00:27:36.474
like, what’s a magic show? That’s so exciting.

00:27:36.714 –> 00:27:44.074
So he gets really excited over this and he goes around collecting glass aquariums

00:27:44.074 –> 00:27:48.134
and filled them with sand, seashells, seahorses, plants, and other fishes and creatures.

00:27:48.394 –> 00:27:52.754
He spent days catching and collecting all these plants and animals to fill his tanks.

00:27:53.054 –> 00:27:55.994
And people were going to be very impressed.

00:27:56.314 –> 00:28:01.834
And like clearly, aquariums in a coastal town is not like a new thing.

00:28:02.054 –> 00:28:05.374
Yeah, that’s like a pigeon in New York.

00:28:05.634 –> 00:28:12.354
Exactly. But he saved the best thing for last. He ushered people in to check

00:28:12.354 –> 00:28:14.194
out a tank that was covered in a black cloth.

00:28:14.474 –> 00:28:20.254
It was dimly lit and he would only pull back the cover for a few seconds and

00:28:20.254 –> 00:28:23.454
people would see a tank filled with a large fish and murky water.

00:28:23.574 –> 00:28:26.934
But someone called out that he could see the mermaid.

00:28:27.394 –> 00:28:31.014
People were very excited. However, the tail.

00:28:31.194 –> 00:28:35.734
So there was like a tail hidden amongst the plants and people scrambled closer

00:28:35.734 –> 00:28:40.154
for a better look. However, Trott threw the cover back over the tank and told

00:28:40.154 –> 00:28:43.934
them you had to, you know, other people were waiting. So you had enough time. You have to go.

00:28:44.074 –> 00:28:47.274
And people spent money to see the mermaid.

00:28:47.774 –> 00:28:51.254
In his mind, it was a harmless gimmick. It was getting people in the door.

00:28:51.354 –> 00:28:57.234
He didn’t think anything of it. However, the root doctor heard people explaining

00:28:57.234 –> 00:29:02.054
that they had seen a mermaid in a tank. And she went to see.

00:29:02.194 –> 00:29:02.954
She called bullshit.

00:29:03.134 –> 00:29:06.294
She went to see said mermaid. When she went to see the mermaid,

00:29:06.534 –> 00:29:10.294
Dr. Trott was like, oh man, something terrible happened.

00:29:11.211 –> 00:29:15.171
The mermaid’s gone. I don’t know. She’s not in the tank anymore.

00:29:15.331 –> 00:29:16.471
And I don’t know what happened.

00:29:17.011 –> 00:29:23.851
Well, the root doctor was like, mm-hmm. A few days later, in June of 1867,

00:29:24.051 –> 00:29:27.151
a terrible storm came to Charleston.

00:29:27.251 –> 00:29:30.051
And it rained for four days and four nights, flooding the city,

00:29:30.151 –> 00:29:33.331
the homes, the people. It was the worst rain in 50 years.

00:29:33.371 –> 00:29:35.591
Like the mecca of all of Mother Nature again.

00:29:35.951 –> 00:29:38.851
And it was a Category 1 hurricane. cane.

00:29:39.051 –> 00:29:46.311
The whole history of mermaids, this is like a huge part of this story as well.

00:29:46.471 –> 00:29:54.671
So mermaids were nature spirits to the African slaves and the belief from like their lives in Africa.

00:29:54.911 –> 00:30:00.351
And so an angry mermaid could cause shipwreck storms and other watery disasters.

00:30:00.851 –> 00:30:05.811
They were afraid. So the the community of people were afraid that this is what

00:30:05.811 –> 00:30:08.551
happened so basically way to go dr trot,

00:30:09.331 –> 00:30:15.231
made real nice story but these people believed in mermaids so much so that when

00:30:15.231 –> 00:30:20.251
it started to pour they were like dude it is this doctor’s fault we need to

00:30:20.251 –> 00:30:22.731
go tell him so they march into his,

00:30:23.751 –> 00:30:29.911
apothecary did they bring pitchforks and no not yet so they basically kill the

00:30:29.911 –> 00:30:32.971
beast So they go in and they’re like,

00:30:32.971 –> 00:30:37.691
they were like actually afraid because if they don’t get this mermaid released

00:30:37.691 –> 00:30:40.411
back into the water, this rain will not stop.

00:30:40.691 –> 00:30:43.771
And so they go, they tell him and he’s just like.

00:30:45.073 –> 00:30:48.413
OK, but I don’t have the mermaid. And they’re like, well, we don’t believe you.

00:30:49.133 –> 00:30:51.053
How screwed is he? Exactly.

00:30:51.373 –> 00:30:54.573
Well, even crazier. So they are like, yeah, you’re lying.

00:30:54.833 –> 00:31:00.733
We saw the mermaid. So they go to the community leaders and speak to the city

00:31:00.733 –> 00:31:08.013
council and Trott is served official paperwork stating that he has to release

00:31:08.013 –> 00:31:12.073
the mermaid or he’ll be fined and also thrown in jail.

00:31:12.073 –> 00:31:15.233
I hope it was the old Charleston jail.

00:31:15.373 –> 00:31:19.213
Yeah, it probably would be. Of course, that doesn’t happen because he doesn’t

00:31:19.213 –> 00:31:21.413
have a mermaid because he made the whole thing up.

00:31:21.653 –> 00:31:25.553
So people are like, yeah, he’s a jerk. We don’t believe him. He’s got this mermaid.

00:31:25.713 –> 00:31:30.413
And a little boy was killed going after his dog.

00:31:30.673 –> 00:31:36.993
And so because it was flooding so much, they were like, someone just died now.

00:31:37.633 –> 00:31:44.913
So like you have to give up this mermaid. A crowd of 500 gullas come to protest

00:31:44.913 –> 00:31:49.373
the shop and especially because the rain was not stopping.

00:31:51.773 –> 00:31:57.913
They demanded that the mermaid be returned to the ocean so that her watery wrath would end.

00:31:58.233 –> 00:32:03.453
And then to add insult to injury, the root doctor was like, also,

00:32:03.573 –> 00:32:10.533
the mermaid had left her only child in the beach’s inlets. and it’s crying was causing the storm.

00:32:10.653 –> 00:32:15.953
So the mother needed to go back to save the baby so that she would stop crying.

00:32:16.093 –> 00:32:19.953
So the crowd totally fed up. Dr. Trott not releasing the mermaid.

00:32:20.173 –> 00:32:22.033
So they stormed the apothecary.

00:32:22.953 –> 00:32:29.873
They like trashed the whole place. And then Trott comes out and explains the entire thing was a hoax.

00:32:30.033 –> 00:32:34.413
He never had a mermaid to set free because she never existed.

00:32:34.413 –> 00:32:39.753
did and that it was only fueled on speculation and all this other stuff.

00:32:39.893 –> 00:32:41.253
And they were like, yeah, no, you’re lying.

00:32:41.733 –> 00:32:43.773
You’re lying. Like you have her.

00:32:43.933 –> 00:32:44.953
Boy, who cried wolf, man.

00:32:45.193 –> 00:32:46.013
So they.

00:32:46.173 –> 00:32:47.233
Another urban legend.

00:32:47.373 –> 00:32:51.093
Well, and so he’s like, you can search my whole space. Well,

00:32:51.113 –> 00:32:52.253
obviously they are trashed it.

00:32:52.373 –> 00:32:56.733
So like they’re like, yes, she’s not in there. So they go in and they’re like

00:32:56.733 –> 00:32:57.653
looking around the store.

00:32:58.133 –> 00:33:01.653
All of the glass tanks and stuff had been destroyed.

00:33:01.653 –> 00:33:06.933
and the plants on the inside of the aquariums were floating in the rainwater

00:33:06.933 –> 00:33:12.333
and they floated out of the shop, a man claimed that he saw the mermaid swimming

00:33:12.333 –> 00:33:15.233
out away from the apothecary and back out to sea.

00:33:15.413 –> 00:33:17.673
And so they think that

00:33:18.088 –> 00:33:22.048
By the whole place being trashed, that the mermaid was trapped in one of those

00:33:22.048 –> 00:33:27.268
aquariums. And when that happened, she was able to swim back to sea. And the rain stopped.

00:33:27.268 –> 00:33:28.008
Minutes later.

00:33:28.648 –> 00:33:31.628
The rain stopped. And the storm finally ended.

00:33:32.088 –> 00:33:36.748
That is the story of the mermaid and the apothecary.

00:33:36.968 –> 00:33:42.588
But, like, how stupid do you have to, like, come on?

00:33:43.168 –> 00:33:45.168
I love it. It’s great.

00:33:45.308 –> 00:33:45.968
It’s a great story.

00:33:45.968 –> 00:33:50.808
My mom used to read that to me because it teaches you not to lie.

00:33:50.968 –> 00:33:54.768
And ever since I read that story, because there was a wolf in it,

00:33:54.848 –> 00:33:58.568
and wolves always terrified me as a child, especially big black ones with big long claws.

00:33:58.888 –> 00:34:02.868
I don’t feel like to this day I can lie because it’s terrifying to me.

00:34:03.108 –> 00:34:06.288
Well, that’s definitely one of those stories that he got what he deserved.

00:34:06.628 –> 00:34:09.548
You took something from their culture that’s so sacred to them,

00:34:09.628 –> 00:34:12.268
tried to turn it into a money-grabbing thing.

00:34:12.688 –> 00:34:17.048
Good for them! Yeah. You stole a giant piece of who they are in their culture,

00:34:17.188 –> 00:34:21.268
something that they were clinging to because it was robbed from them to make a dollar.

00:34:21.368 –> 00:34:21.848
It was wild.

00:34:21.908 –> 00:34:25.488
Because you were pissed that the root doctor is getting all of your business

00:34:25.488 –> 00:34:29.268
when the root doctor is probably doing this crap for free because they’re doing

00:34:29.268 –> 00:34:31.008
it. That’s their calling. That’s what they do.

00:34:31.228 –> 00:34:31.608
Exactly.

00:34:31.828 –> 00:34:36.908
He had already, or she, the root doctor had already established their home there too.

00:34:37.028 –> 00:34:37.248
Right.

00:34:37.288 –> 00:34:41.128
Absolutely. Was cheaper than the apothecary. And like you said,

00:34:41.148 –> 00:34:45.608
he came from New York. So that’s not your area. Like, you got to build your clientele, bro.

00:34:45.828 –> 00:34:46.308
Exactly.

00:34:46.568 –> 00:34:46.948
Exactly.

00:34:46.968 –> 00:34:49.148
You can’t steal other people’s.

00:34:49.608 –> 00:34:53.848
I would never go up against a root doctor. I just think you’re like asking for it.

00:34:53.868 –> 00:34:59.348
And you deserve it. But can we just talk about the fact that there was 500 people that went outside?

00:34:59.708 –> 00:35:03.668
Like, I’m assuming this is not a massive building, right?

00:35:03.688 –> 00:35:08.588
Can you imagine 500 people on those streets in Charleston that are itty bitty

00:35:08.588 –> 00:35:11.908
just to get this mermaid release?

00:35:11.908 –> 00:35:15.288
Least because it’s so important to them to make sure that something that they

00:35:15.288 –> 00:35:18.928
believe in so heartedly from their culture is released where it should be like

00:35:18.928 –> 00:35:22.028
you’re not going to contain this thing and i also love that they called it the

00:35:22.028 –> 00:35:25.868
mermaid riots yeah that was so funny i saw it my research yeah.

00:35:25.868 –> 00:35:32.328
When they ran it in the newspapers it was referred to the mermaid riots even though there was no.

00:35:32.328 –> 00:35:36.288
Actual riot they just wanted to free the freaking mermaid yeah when i think

00:35:36.288 –> 00:35:40.148
about stories like that like that is another i mean like it kind of brings us

00:35:40.148 –> 00:35:44.468
back to the boo hag story And I mean, these are amazing urban legends.

00:35:44.688 –> 00:35:50.388
Also, this is like a little note from the story, which I just read and I need to read now.

00:35:50.508 –> 00:35:56.248
It says that the Gola people were going to do everything to save the captured

00:35:56.248 –> 00:36:01.368
mermaid because just two years earlier is when they had been freed from slavery.

00:36:01.708 –> 00:36:06.668
And so it would make sense that these people are like, of course,

00:36:06.668 –> 00:36:11.688
we will do everything we possibly can to free this mermaid. made. That’s beautiful.

00:36:11.948 –> 00:36:12.388
That’s beautiful.

00:36:26.556 –> 00:36:31.616
So I’m going to start with the gray man, which is oddly enough, that’s more of a story.

00:36:31.696 –> 00:36:34.776
The young man in this story, he came from Charleston.

00:36:35.316 –> 00:36:40.276
So this story is the ghost of a young man. He’s traveling from Charleston to see his fiance in 1822.

00:36:40.796 –> 00:36:44.816
On his way, he and his horse were caught in quicksand. It was right before a

00:36:44.816 –> 00:36:48.596
Pauley’s Island. So kind of after Charleston, right? And he died.

00:36:48.936 –> 00:36:52.136
And so his spirits kind of haunted the shore ever since then.

00:36:52.356 –> 00:36:55.956
You know, it’s looking for the girl he loved, which we know is a common theme in all these stories.

00:36:56.876 –> 00:37:02.896
But it became a printed book in Julian Stevenson Bollick’s book,

00:37:03.016 –> 00:37:04.816
Waccamaw Plantations in 1946.

00:37:04.956 –> 00:37:08.736
And then eventually in another book in 1956 of ghost stories,

00:37:08.836 –> 00:37:13.556
but it’s gotten so much more national attention in the last like 30 years because

00:37:13.556 –> 00:37:17.796
during Hurricane Hugo, there was a couple, Jim and Clara Moore.

00:37:18.036 –> 00:37:22.476
They were interviewed for one of all of our favorite shows, Unsolved Mysteries.

00:37:22.476 –> 00:37:27.436
They told their story about seeing a man on the beach, the same look that they

00:37:27.436 –> 00:37:28.656
describe in the stories.

00:37:29.016 –> 00:37:33.756
He waved to them and they waved back to him. Their house was the only house

00:37:33.756 –> 00:37:35.396
that was spared in the hurricane.

00:37:35.496 –> 00:37:39.176
Every house around them was decimated. Their house was completely spared,

00:37:39.356 –> 00:37:40.956
which is the legend of the great man.

00:37:41.056 –> 00:37:45.356
So essentially, if you see this man on the beach and he waves to you or nods

00:37:45.356 –> 00:37:48.436
to you and you get some interaction with him, your house will be saved in the hurricanes.

00:37:48.436 –> 00:37:54.376
Well then in 2014, the Weather Channel, they devoted an entire episode to the

00:37:54.376 –> 00:37:56.976
story of the Gray Man. Because this isn’t the first time it happens.

00:37:57.236 –> 00:38:01.696
So apparently people that have encountered him, and there was like a bunch of

00:38:01.696 –> 00:38:02.976
people in the story. I watched the clip.

00:38:03.376 –> 00:38:08.676
They’ve either come ashore and seen, oh, my home is completely fine,

00:38:08.736 –> 00:38:11.476
my belongings are fine, but everything around them is decimated.

00:38:11.696 –> 00:38:14.836
I love that some people say he looked like a young man on a horse,

00:38:14.996 –> 00:38:17.016
and sometimes he’s on a horse, sometimes he’s just walking on the shore.

00:38:18.295 –> 00:38:21.075
You know, again, folklore. So we’re talking about urban legends.

00:38:21.915 –> 00:38:24.575
Eventually, he’s, you know, described as like a pirate.

00:38:24.655 –> 00:38:27.935
Maybe he’s a pirate that came ashore and now he’s protecting people because

00:38:27.935 –> 00:38:29.855
he was a nice pirate. Whatever it may be.

00:38:30.215 –> 00:38:37.215
But I just like the idea of like a, you know, kind of going back to the Gullah legends.

00:38:37.495 –> 00:38:40.355
I like the idea of a guy that’s just going to save your house from a hurricane

00:38:40.355 –> 00:38:42.095
if you’re nice to him. Just be nice to me.

00:38:42.135 –> 00:38:44.355
I just like that we’re talking about a friendly ghost.

00:38:44.515 –> 00:38:46.995
Me too. But I’m going to talk about now a sad story.

00:38:47.235 –> 00:38:47.615
Oh, great.

00:38:47.615 –> 00:38:51.835
So this is called The Story of the Ravenel Lights, which every single time I

00:38:51.835 –> 00:38:56.435
looked up urban legends in Charleston, this is like, for our area growing up,

00:38:56.435 –> 00:38:58.215
we had the legend of Sleepy Hollow, right?

00:38:58.375 –> 00:39:01.655
Everybody in New York, in the Hudson Valley where we grew up,

00:39:01.695 –> 00:39:04.535
you knew the story of the Headless Horseman, the legend of Sleepy Hollow.

00:39:04.715 –> 00:39:04.935
Yeah.

00:39:05.075 –> 00:39:10.135
This is kind of their story. So every kid, every young kid hears this story.

00:39:10.235 –> 00:39:12.175
It’s a spooky story you tell around the fire.

00:39:12.335 –> 00:39:15.435
And it’s a story of the Ravenel Lights. So this is about three teenage boys.

00:39:15.775 –> 00:39:19.695
There’s two kind of versions. One, they’re ran over by a logging truck and the

00:39:19.695 –> 00:39:23.255
other one, they’re hit by a train. Both not great.

00:39:23.415 –> 00:39:23.655
Wow.

00:39:24.015 –> 00:39:28.735
At 1230 in the morning, one of the kids that was walking along the tracks says,

00:39:28.835 –> 00:39:30.395
I see lights. There’s no train.

00:39:30.555 –> 00:39:33.255
They find these three bodies. In the other version of the story,

00:39:33.395 –> 00:39:37.275
the kids are walking up and down the street. They see three lights in the distance.

00:39:37.915 –> 00:39:42.055
They’re hit by the logging truck and they’re killed. But this is my favorite part.

00:39:42.195 –> 00:39:44.635
Do you guys ever have stories where that people would say like,

00:39:44.695 –> 00:39:48.215
oh, you go knock on this lady’s door. and the ghosts would come to your house.

00:39:48.215 –> 00:39:48.895
Sounds like Buckout Row.

00:39:49.075 –> 00:39:54.735
Yes, this is exactly like that. So if you go to the Baptist church that the

00:39:54.735 –> 00:39:57.335
three boys are buried behind, because we don’t know a lot about who these boys

00:39:57.335 –> 00:39:59.535
were, but if you go to the Baptist church doors,

00:39:59.755 –> 00:40:03.295
knock three times and you say, we want to see the lights and then you repeat

00:40:03.295 –> 00:40:04.615
the process three times,

00:40:05.495 –> 00:40:08.735
the lights of the logging truck will appear in front of you.

00:40:08.875 –> 00:40:09.515
No, thank you.

00:40:10.175 –> 00:40:14.075
This young teenage kid, he moves to Charleston. First thing he wants to do,

00:40:14.255 –> 00:40:17.275
probably earning some street cred, grabbed some of his new friends,

00:40:18.086 –> 00:40:23.486
And he goes to the church at 1130 p.m. and he does the whole knocking thing. Nothing happens.

00:40:23.806 –> 00:40:26.966
And then they all go back to the road to wait for lights. Still nothing happens.

00:40:27.146 –> 00:40:31.186
There’s already cars parked along the street and on the side road.

00:40:31.266 –> 00:40:34.406
So a couple of the kids were like leaning against the churchyard,

00:40:34.506 –> 00:40:36.046
like the cars outside the churchyard.

00:40:36.506 –> 00:40:42.206
So it’s now an hour later. It’s about 1230. He and his friends see the lights coming down the road.

00:40:42.266 –> 00:40:46.426
They don’t hear a car, but they see the lights coming down the road.

00:40:46.486 –> 00:40:49.326
And they’re already leaning against cars. so like okay it’s not any of

00:40:49.326 –> 00:40:52.266
these cars there’s no lights on and but they’re looking and

00:40:52.266 –> 00:40:55.546
so the one kid runs further down the road looks behind the lights

00:40:55.546 –> 00:40:58.846
are still coming towards him there’s no car but they see these lights coming

00:40:58.846 –> 00:41:03.906
towards them obviously they all freak out and what they think is the car the

00:41:03.906 –> 00:41:09.006
two headlights of the car it comes to be one light and then the one light zooms

00:41:09.006 –> 00:41:13.566
towards the kid that did the knocking on the door and it like hits him in the chest.

00:41:14.306 –> 00:41:17.606
This is my favorite part the kids run away oh

00:41:17.606 –> 00:41:20.706
they’re like we don’t know you yeah out bye we

00:41:20.706 –> 00:41:25.466
are out he looked around him again he almost wet his pants i just love that

00:41:25.466 –> 00:41:30.386
they had to put that into that and then he looks behind him the two lights are

00:41:30.386 –> 00:41:33.666
there again so they’re continuing down the road and then it looks like they’re

00:41:33.666 –> 00:41:36.686
not one light not two lights but three lights almost like three motorcycles

00:41:36.686 –> 00:41:40.306
are getting ready to race back at him and that’s where they end that story,

00:41:40.921 –> 00:41:44.421
one of the things that kept popping up when you type in the most

00:41:44.421 –> 00:41:47.321
ridiculous urban legends of charleston bigfoot oh yeah just

00:41:47.321 –> 00:41:51.621
so you know guys uh there has been 57 reported sightings

00:41:51.621 –> 00:41:56.861
of bigfoot around charleston south carolina that’s wild and they started in

00:41:56.861 –> 00:42:03.301
1964 and the most recent was in 2022 oh wow and this is hilarious because i

00:42:03.301 –> 00:42:09.941
found a couple different stories and one of my favorites is the first guy that saw it, you know,

00:42:10.481 –> 00:42:13.541
it’s just audio and all you can hear is him describing what he saw.

00:42:13.621 –> 00:42:17.481
He’s like, it was a big furry man, I think, or foot.

00:42:17.581 –> 00:42:20.941
His foot was big and then he ran behind a bush and everyone’s like,

00:42:21.001 –> 00:42:21.901
that must have been Bigfoot.

00:42:22.121 –> 00:42:23.041
Yeah, definitely.

00:42:23.541 –> 00:42:26.141
Back then, you’re just like so ready to accept it. It’s like, absolutely.

00:42:26.301 –> 00:42:29.581
I mean, that seems to be the trend. Everybody’s pretty quick to jump on the train.

00:42:29.741 –> 00:42:32.741
And that just really made me laugh and it’s the same thing as UFO sightings.

00:42:32.961 –> 00:42:36.141
They have a lot of UFO sightings in South Carolina. Which is hilarious.

00:42:36.381 –> 00:42:40.321
And there’s actually this part, it’s like 50 miles outside of Charleston,

00:42:40.441 –> 00:42:43.861
where people say that there’s like a crop circle almost.

00:42:43.901 –> 00:42:44.861
Oh, yes, yes, yes.

00:42:44.861 –> 00:42:48.101
Where absolutely nothing can grow, not even an earthworm. And they don’t know why.

00:42:48.341 –> 00:42:52.181
It had nothing to do with the fire. It is a perfect circle. Then it’s just there.

00:42:52.281 –> 00:42:53.981
And they have no idea why it is there.

00:42:54.421 –> 00:43:00.161
But this is, hands down, without a doubt, my favorite ridiculous Charleston urban legend.

00:43:00.261 –> 00:43:02.521
It’s the swamp man and the lizard man.

00:43:02.841 –> 00:43:03.281
Yes.

00:43:03.281 –> 00:43:05.521
Oh, the Swamp Man and the Lizard Man are the same person?

00:43:05.641 –> 00:43:10.641
They’re the same person, apparently. And as far as Charleston stories go, fairly recent.

00:43:10.821 –> 00:43:15.461
It’s the wee dark hours in the morning of July 29th, or June 29th,

00:43:15.461 –> 00:43:16.981
I apologize. The wee dark hours. That’s what it says.

00:43:17.881 –> 00:43:24.701
1988. A teenage boy was driving home from work when he blew a tire along the edge of Scape or Swamp.

00:43:25.382 –> 00:43:28.042
First of all, what a great name for a swamp. He got out of the car to change

00:43:28.042 –> 00:43:31.822
the tire and he heard a loud sound, something like someone running at him and

00:43:31.822 –> 00:43:32.782
it was getting louder and louder.

00:43:32.962 –> 00:43:35.962
And then from the darkness, it says it emerged.

00:43:37.222 –> 00:43:42.282
Blazing red eyes, green scaly skin, long black claws on three fingers,

00:43:42.522 –> 00:43:44.722
a staggering seven feet tall.

00:43:45.102 –> 00:43:47.582
What else could it be but a lizard man?

00:43:48.162 –> 00:43:52.262
The boy jumped into his car for safety, but the lizard man attacked the car,

00:43:52.402 –> 00:43:55.222
ripping the a mirror off and gouging the roof off the vehicle

00:43:55.222 –> 00:43:57.922
two weeks later the police were called to the scene of some

00:43:57.922 –> 00:44:00.542
vandalism a car not too far from the

00:44:00.542 –> 00:44:03.762
same exact swamp had been attacked in the night fenders were

00:44:03.762 –> 00:44:06.642
ripped off the antenna was bent deep scratches along the body

00:44:06.642 –> 00:44:10.662
and the chrome trim had been chewed off and then

00:44:10.662 –> 00:44:13.322
that same summer more cars in the

00:44:13.322 –> 00:44:16.382
vicinity of skateboard swamp were brutally attacked and

00:44:16.382 –> 00:44:19.502
chewed on and then as as more cars are being vandalized

00:44:19.502 –> 00:44:22.422
they’re starting to say that they’re all seeing this enormous scaly

00:44:22.422 –> 00:44:25.342
green man lurking in the woods and swamps the police

00:44:25.342 –> 00:44:28.022
kept getting called out and the sheriff was starting to make

00:44:28.022 –> 00:44:31.442
this is real the sheriff was making plaster casts of

00:44:31.442 –> 00:44:36.222
the enormous three-toed footprints left behind in the thick swamp mud i just

00:44:36.222 –> 00:44:40.662
really hope this is somebody who worked on like a hollywood movie yeah the swamp

00:44:40.662 –> 00:44:44.782
man costume like that’s what i hope they considered calling the fbi decided

00:44:44.782 –> 00:44:49.582
against it But then in the cooler days and nights, so the summer’s come and gone,

00:44:49.722 –> 00:44:52.402
the Lizard Man, he receded back into his swamp.

00:44:52.742 –> 00:44:55.802
And then all of a sudden it got warmer again. And guess what? He’s back.

00:44:56.442 –> 00:44:59.762
And over the decades, there’s been sightings on some occasions,

00:44:59.762 –> 00:45:04.322
not as much as that first summer, but there’s a smattering of automobile maulings.

00:45:05.742 –> 00:45:09.402
And they’re always in the vicinity of the swamps around Bishopville,

00:45:09.502 –> 00:45:12.162
which is outside of Charleston, where Mr. Lizard Man lives.

00:45:12.530 –> 00:45:16.730
made his present i think that’s appetite for cars no i think.

00:45:16.730 –> 00:45:18.590
That’s the warning like don’t drive your good car.

00:45:18.590 –> 00:45:21.650
Around that in 2015 something remarkable happened

00:45:21.650 –> 00:45:24.930
dina oh there’s been proof a photograph oh

00:45:24.930 –> 00:45:30.570
my god of the creature was taken with her cell phone as she left church looking

00:45:30.570 –> 00:45:37.130
now there is a subsequent video oh my god may prove lizard man’s existence distance

00:45:37.130 –> 00:45:42.330
did you see it did you see it did you see it yes i sure did it’s incredible

00:45:42.330 –> 00:45:44.130
it looks like a t-rex costume it.

00:45:44.130 –> 00:45:44.810
Looks like it.

00:45:44.810 –> 00:45:52.230
Also looks like if a very jacked man would just want it to be a lizard please oh.

00:45:52.230 –> 00:45:54.610
My god there’s even one with like a new like it.

00:45:54.610 –> 00:45:56.070
Was on the news the.

00:45:56.070 –> 00:45:57.050
News lee county.

00:45:57.050 –> 00:46:02.330
It gets better the south carolina emergency management division my god tweeted

00:46:02.330 –> 00:46:06.250
out the warning about the possible Lizardman’s reappearance during the Great

00:46:06.250 –> 00:46:08.050
American Solar Eclipse of 2017.

00:46:09.190 –> 00:46:09.870
Stop it.

00:46:09.890 –> 00:46:12.950
During the solar eclipse, Lizardman was ready to come out.

00:46:13.470 –> 00:46:16.890
And they weren’t sure because of his nocturnal state. They were worried about

00:46:16.890 –> 00:46:20.970
the total solar eclipse if that would make him think it was nighttime and he would come out.

00:46:21.830 –> 00:46:23.210
Okay, but guess what, guys?

00:46:23.410 –> 00:46:24.130
He didn’t.

00:46:24.590 –> 00:46:28.050
He didn’t come out. So everyone’s really upset about it. I am dying.

00:46:28.150 –> 00:46:29.710
Maybe he didn’t know he was invited.

00:46:30.130 –> 00:46:35.070
Well, Lizardman’s real, guys. We saw him and he is clearly on steroids.

00:46:35.670 –> 00:46:40.070
I mean, this is the kind of lizard that I’m afraid of. But those are typically

00:46:40.070 –> 00:46:43.730
like kimono dragons. They’re usually in Australia.

00:46:43.870 –> 00:46:48.230
I can’t wait for you to see the picture of this. It looks like he’s been roid

00:46:48.230 –> 00:46:49.930
raging for 300 centuries.

00:46:49.950 –> 00:46:53.590
I cannot. It literally to me, that’s a Godzilla costume.

00:46:54.230 –> 00:46:57.170
But just think about the fact that this is probably some dude.

00:46:57.330 –> 00:47:00.290
Did he buy a costume and just spray paint it?

00:47:00.870 –> 00:47:06.390
He had to and like the the poor cops in the late 80s are just making plaster

00:47:06.390 –> 00:47:11.250
casts of his feet in the woods and it’s just some dude very lonely in his mom’s

00:47:11.250 –> 00:47:12.350
basement where he lives it’s.

00:47:12.350 –> 00:47:14.950
Like the serial killer who dressed up like a cat clown oh.

00:47:14.950 –> 00:47:17.130
I didn’t i did not like that because i actually lived.

00:47:17.130 –> 00:47:18.670
In that area at the time and that.

00:47:18.670 –> 00:47:20.970
Was i know a lot about that terrifying it really.

00:47:20.970 –> 00:47:24.750
Was and it started catching on yeah but cnn guys.

00:47:24.750 –> 00:47:26.590
Has a link to.

00:47:26.590 –> 00:47:32.730
That says is lizard man back cnn CNN affiliate WIS reports on Lizardman,

00:47:32.830 –> 00:47:37.990
a local urban legend that went viral on August 4th, 2015. Yeah. Oh, my God.

00:47:38.010 –> 00:47:41.770
He’s so jacked. It even made CNN. I can’t wait for you guys to see this.

00:47:41.810 –> 00:47:45.970
But also, I love that they say his appetite isn’t for people. It’s just automobiles.

00:47:46.030 –> 00:47:46.250
Yeah.

00:47:46.430 –> 00:47:48.810
He’s like, ooh, that cherry red paint. Let me get some of that.

00:47:48.930 –> 00:47:50.190
Yeah, right? Dessert.

00:47:50.650 –> 00:47:52.050
I got to do the fun, silly ones.

00:47:52.110 –> 00:47:55.450
Those were the fun, silly ones. And I think that is the fun of urban legends.

00:47:55.490 –> 00:47:55.710
Right?

00:47:55.730 –> 00:47:58.470
Some of them are just absolutely ridiculous that you’re like, really? really.

00:47:58.610 –> 00:48:02.910
Nothing about what I just said terrifies me. No. I’m not even like the ounce scared.

00:48:03.150 –> 00:48:06.190
Although the story you’re about to tell, which is hilarious because we can say

00:48:06.190 –> 00:48:08.470
it about everything, it is Charleston’s

00:48:08.890 –> 00:48:10.230
biggest urban legend.

00:48:10.230 –> 00:48:13.190
Yeah there are so many yeah urban legends

00:48:13.190 –> 00:48:18.630
right especially in this area and i guess a radio station decided to have a

00:48:18.630 –> 00:48:24.530
vote and they voted that the tomb that would not stay closed was the number

00:48:24.530 –> 00:48:28.730
one urban legend when i when i read that title i was like that sounds like are

00:48:28.730 –> 00:48:32.510
an and are you afraid of the dark episode yeah right yeah.

00:48:32.510 –> 00:48:34.030
Yeah it does i.

00:48:34.030 –> 00:48:37.070
Loved that show Me too. My mother did not love me watching that show.

00:48:37.070 –> 00:48:38.970
Have you seen the new, the remake of it?

00:48:39.050 –> 00:48:40.970
Yeah, with Justin Long. Yeah. Yeah, it’s good.

00:48:41.050 –> 00:48:41.350
It’s a movie?

00:48:41.630 –> 00:48:42.250
It’s a show.

00:48:42.250 –> 00:48:42.950
It’s a show. It’s good.

00:48:43.030 –> 00:48:44.330
It’s like a limited series.

00:48:44.450 –> 00:48:45.710
Yeah, your students probably love it.

00:48:45.770 –> 00:48:48.990
Yeah. How amazing. Well, it’s about Julia Laguerre.

00:48:49.210 –> 00:48:55.230
She was the wife of a wealthy planner in Edisto Island that just got sick one

00:48:55.230 –> 00:48:59.770
day, and they think it might have been diphtheria, which I don’t know much about

00:48:59.770 –> 00:49:04.070
that, but it said she tragically died of this disease, 1852.

00:49:04.070 –> 00:49:06.790
right so not only have we seen that they

00:49:06.790 –> 00:49:09.730
really don’t take care of people in jail or really question anything

00:49:09.730 –> 00:49:12.670
judiciously apparently you know if they

00:49:12.670 –> 00:49:16.630
think you’re dead you’re dead yeah that’s just what happens so the laguerre

00:49:16.630 –> 00:49:21.010
family had a mausoleum and you know put her in there sealed the door shut uh

00:49:21.010 –> 00:49:25.930
and apparently never went back that’s the part that i have a hard time with

00:49:25.930 –> 00:49:30.110
because you know if you think somebody your wife daughter sister passed away

00:49:30.110 –> 00:49:32.350
you’d visit them yeah No.

00:49:32.830 –> 00:49:35.210
A couple of years go by…

00:49:35.980 –> 00:49:42.140
Until Julia’s young son passes away and the groundskeeper reopened the door for his burial.

00:49:42.300 –> 00:49:48.960
Well, I don’t think they were expecting to find her decomposed body next to the door.

00:49:50.100 –> 00:49:54.400
So apparent. And also, let’s let’s add that there were scratch marks on the

00:49:54.400 –> 00:49:58.200
door interior, which basically tells you that she was entombed alive.

00:49:59.200 –> 00:50:00.160
It’s horrific.

00:50:00.480 –> 00:50:04.440
That’s horrible. You know, like they say, stories of people being buried alive.

00:50:04.440 –> 00:50:07.080
that’s why they put the little bells because during the black plague that you

00:50:07.080 –> 00:50:10.000
know they were never sure if someone was actually dead and you could ring the

00:50:10.000 –> 00:50:13.240
little bell but actually what happens when you die is your muscles kind of twitch

00:50:13.240 –> 00:50:16.960
and gases are released so the cemetery was just like a bunch of bells ringing

00:50:16.960 –> 00:50:23.280
and the you know the people like is everybody alive yeah what is happening that’s.

00:50:23.280 –> 00:50:23.900
My worst nightmare.

00:50:23.900 –> 00:50:24.700
Yes same yes.

00:50:24.700 –> 00:50:28.860
That’s terrifying that is beyond yeah i would wet myself.

00:50:28.860 –> 00:50:33.500
Well just like our boys from the yeah i’m with them i would release bodily of

00:50:33.500 –> 00:50:35.920
leaf fluids um and that is.

00:50:35.920 –> 00:50:40.220
Where the story kind of takes that urban legend twist because not only is that

00:50:40.220 –> 00:50:46.300
horrific but allegedly uh they tried reburying her bones and adding her deceased

00:50:46.300 –> 00:50:51.080
child right and they tried resealing the mausoleum door well now they’re saying

00:50:51.080 –> 00:50:52.760
the door refused to remain closed.

00:50:52.760 –> 00:50:54.440
Hell yeah it doesn’t it’s.

00:50:54.440 –> 00:50:58.660
I just picture her ghost like putting her foot exactly in the door like not again.

00:50:58.660 –> 00:51:00.980
You know yeah so.

00:51:00.980 –> 00:51:05.200
Because people were like frequenting the cemetery they did eventually just decide

00:51:05.200 –> 00:51:09.220
to take the door off so when you go to visit it now there actually is no door

00:51:09.220 –> 00:51:13.820
on her mausoleum but i get you know i feel like we talked about it with something

00:51:13.820 –> 00:51:16.260
else that you know i was like don’t close the door yeah.

00:51:16.260 –> 00:51:16.940
So like.

00:51:16.940 –> 00:51:17.260
Maybe.

00:51:17.260 –> 00:51:19.000
It’s just like some sort of.

00:51:19.000 –> 00:51:21.760
Warning that kind of yeah spirits are.

00:51:21.760 –> 00:51:22.500
Telling you like.

00:51:22.500 –> 00:51:28.920
Let them out yeah right well the dungeon with the tour guide the door slam closed keep.

00:51:28.920 –> 00:51:32.100
Them out yeah and i mean i

00:51:32.100 –> 00:51:35.640
love that we’re kind of ending on that because false circle

00:51:35.640 –> 00:51:39.900
for charleston obviously something we learned like it’s very dark

00:51:39.900 –> 00:51:42.820
roots on how charleston was settled what they did to settle

00:51:42.820 –> 00:51:46.780
and create their town you know as a port town and all

00:51:46.780 –> 00:51:49.880
of that kind of stuff but because it’s rooted

00:51:49.880 –> 00:51:53.240
in so much evil you can’t not expect it

00:51:53.240 –> 00:51:57.100
to be haunted yeah and no matter what you believe you

00:51:57.100 –> 00:52:00.880
can’t deny even if you’re a skeptic for this kind of stuff you can’t deny what

00:52:00.880 –> 00:52:05.980
happened there yeah is not haunting you know what i mean like truly horrific

00:52:05.980 –> 00:52:09.180
things you’ve got the fire you’ve got the flood you’ve got all the horrific

00:52:09.180 –> 00:52:11.060
plantations and slavery and

00:52:11.060 –> 00:52:14.480
slave trade they use that port for massive amounts of slave well that’s.

00:52:14.480 –> 00:52:17.960
The thing like it being a coastal town especially you have so many people coming

00:52:17.960 –> 00:52:20.000
So you have so many cultures.

00:52:20.000 –> 00:52:22.480
And people from all over.

00:52:22.480 –> 00:52:26.660
The place coming to this area, bringing with them all of their…

00:52:27.785 –> 00:52:30.985
history and culture and everything there as well i.

00:52:30.985 –> 00:52:35.365
Kind of look at it as because it was founded,

00:52:36.365 –> 00:52:40.345
on so much horrible whatever you want to call it these are the people that are

00:52:40.345 –> 00:52:43.845
like no we’re going to keep our story alive until the right people are ready

00:52:43.845 –> 00:52:48.665
to tell this the real story absolutely and i i kind of love that because charleston

00:52:48.665 –> 00:52:52.605
is one of the most touristy areas in the country, right?

00:52:52.625 –> 00:52:53.225
Haunted places.

00:52:53.445 –> 00:52:56.685
That’s number one. All right.

00:52:56.865 –> 00:53:01.065
But I think even if if people aren’t familiar with many different places in

00:53:01.065 –> 00:53:02.765
the United States, you know, Charleston. Yeah.

00:53:02.905 –> 00:53:06.565
And, you know, there are some spooky, creepy things going on there.

00:53:06.705 –> 00:53:12.425
This one was really fun because, you know, we told the the spooky aspects of it.

00:53:12.505 –> 00:53:15.225
But, you know, feel free to do your own research again. We’re going to throw

00:53:15.225 –> 00:53:18.465
up all those links and we hope you enjoyed the stories because Because they

00:53:18.465 –> 00:53:20.845
were a lot of fun to tell this time.

00:53:21.025 –> 00:53:24.705
And this was one that we didn’t know a lot about. Even though you two had done

00:53:24.705 –> 00:53:26.665
tours. We all learned a lot in this one.

00:53:26.805 –> 00:53:31.365
Where Sleepy Hollow, we grew up with it, right? So this one was definitely a learning curve for us.

00:53:31.785 –> 00:53:36.465
But it is one. I mean, I have to go now. We have to go.

00:53:36.585 –> 00:53:40.705
Yes. And we encourage that. Anyone listening who’s got a little bit of a spark

00:53:40.705 –> 00:53:43.805
of interest. I would recommend it 100%.

00:53:43.805 –> 00:53:47.905
And also, send us your stories. Because when we did Sleepy Hollow,

00:53:48.085 –> 00:53:52.325
we got people saying like, yeah, I’ve done the tour. I did the nighttime tour.

00:53:52.605 –> 00:53:54.525
If you were lucky enough to have Dina as your tour guide.

00:53:54.845 –> 00:53:58.745
But also for people in our inner circle who we all went to school,

00:53:58.785 –> 00:54:00.625
we all learned these stories. We’re all told these stories.

00:54:00.845 –> 00:54:04.005
But this is one of those ones where I want to hear everyone else’s stories.

00:54:04.065 –> 00:54:06.805
Because the Sleepy Hollow stories I have been hearing from, you know,

00:54:06.805 –> 00:54:08.865
family members and friends my whole life.

00:54:08.945 –> 00:54:11.925
But I want to hear other people’s stories because it just seems like this…

00:54:12.854 –> 00:54:17.274
A whole freaking place as gorgeous and beautiful and historic as it is and just

00:54:17.274 –> 00:54:21.434
like a mecca of beautiful food and shopping. What a freak show.

00:54:21.634 –> 00:54:22.074
Yeah.

00:54:22.194 –> 00:54:24.494
So I want to hear more about that.

00:54:24.614 –> 00:54:28.094
There’s got to be. Yeah, I feel like anyone that grew up there has stories.

00:54:28.374 –> 00:54:29.474
Went to college there.

00:54:29.474 –> 00:54:34.394
You know, like you grew up hearing these stories or other stories or we’d love to hear them.

00:54:34.714 –> 00:54:35.154
Yeah.

00:54:35.214 –> 00:54:38.614
And we know there’s so many that we didn’t even have enough time to tell.

00:54:38.674 –> 00:54:41.694
To tell. And again, I just do want to reiterate. reiterate um

00:54:41.694 –> 00:54:44.454
we talked about it a little bit in one of our other episodes we are going

00:54:44.454 –> 00:54:47.874
to be doing a bonus episode for you guys on the darker

00:54:47.874 –> 00:54:50.794
history of how charleston was founded so we’re going to get somebody that’s

00:54:50.794 –> 00:54:54.174
a little bit more educated on that topic to do that episode with us and educate

00:54:54.174 –> 00:54:58.394
us because we don’t know a lot and we’re excited to share that with you guys

00:54:58.394 –> 00:55:03.074
and we also want suggestions on what we should do for next season we have some

00:55:03.074 –> 00:55:06.614
holiday episodes planned for you we know what we’re doing for that but we want

00:55:06.614 –> 00:55:10.734
suggestions like if you live in a town that It has some creepy, creepy stuff going on.

00:55:10.814 –> 00:55:10.934
Yeah.

00:55:11.134 –> 00:55:15.334
And people don’t know about it. Tell us and we will do it.

00:55:15.494 –> 00:55:16.094
I want to know.

00:55:16.594 –> 00:55:16.954
You want to know.

00:55:17.054 –> 00:55:18.234
We like the unknown.

00:55:18.434 –> 00:55:18.914
We do.

00:55:20.094 –> 00:55:21.214
On that note.

00:55:21.394 –> 00:55:24.574
Folk around and find out, folks. Follow us on social media.

00:55:24.954 –> 00:55:30.594
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00:55:30.674 –> 00:55:32.034
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00:55:40.374 –> 00:55:42.534
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